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to: MIKE SMITH
from: TOM PATIERNO
date: 1996-11-17 08:44:00
subject: Re: Re: Unions

Hey, Mike Smith!  Remember the message about Re: Re: Unions?
You said to Chris Nold on 12 Nov 96  17:32:02...
 
MS> CN>-> CN> I heard that a physician was giving talks at EMS conventions
MS> CN>that
MS> CN>-> CN> paramedics are having no good effect at saving lives, and
MS> CN>-> recommends CN> that EMTs are all that's needed. Seems we need to go
MS> CN>-> back to the CN> load'n'go days of the dinosaurs..go figure. I guess
MS> CN>-> that's being CN> considered non-essential...
 
MS> (1:124/3152.0)He is probably saying this because we in EMS have not done 
MS> a lot of research and data collection to show or prove anything. We know 
MS> we are making a difference, we see it, but we can't prove it. We are 
 
Let me put it to you another way.  If the days of "load and go" are what this 
Dr. is preaching, then why staff a helicoptor with Respiratory therepist, 
flight nurse, and all the bells and whistles that go with it?  Because the 
truth of the matter is that more training pre- hospital DOES save lives.  Why 
else would there be all these air ambulances with their full contigent of 
RN's, etc, etc, when "all they need are EMT's to load 'em and go".  If these 
hypocrits of medicine put their money where their mouth was, the RN's, 
respiratory therapists, etc, would be sitting behind a desk, charting their 
hearts out, and you'd be "EMT'ing" at 3,000 feet.  Golly gee!  Just think of 
all the money they'd save for their hospitals/ insurance companies!  The 
bottom line is that the professional medical profession realize that 
prehospital medicine is a necessary evil.  Since there is not a big voice for 
the prehospital care pros, expect to be saddled with all sorts of insane 
edicts from Dr.s like this.  There are, indeed, many statistics that show 
hat
advanced prehospital training will increase the viability of patients that 
make it to a hospital, over having one "load and go."  The hospitals know it- 
the medical community is banking on the deification of these Dr's. to 
ullsh!t
the rest of us that being stupider is better.  
Don't buy it.
Regards,
Tom Patierno
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