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echo: novell
to: FRANK RAMSEY
from: MIKE BILOW
date: 1997-07-18 19:03:00
subject: WINDOWS NT and Novell Server 3.12

Frank Ramsey wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
 LR> any ideas on how i can get nt to use the server time?
 FR> #SYSTIME in the system login script.  And have the NT ws run
 FR> the system login script.
 MB> Some clarification: as in Unix, setting the time of day 
 MB> clock in NT requires sufficient security privilege.  If 
 MB> the user logging in does not have admin rights on his 
 MB> local machine, he may not be allowed to modify the time of 
 MB> day from a login script nor from anywhere else.
 FR> If we stick to the rules as we understand them, I agree. 
 FR> However, we are doing this with hundreds of NT workstations
 FR> with users that have typical NT domain privs and it works
 FR> like a champ.  Guess this says typical user privs includes
 FR> the ability to reset the time of day.
The original questioner posted that he tried #SYSTIME and it didn't work.  I 
was suggesting what the most likely cause of failure might be.  In my 
experience, most NT Workstation setups in corporate environments tend to 
allow as limited privileges to users as they can get away with before they 
are actually unable to function in their jobs.
I know an entire programming department which revolted and installed NT 
Workstation on their own, refusing to give the network people the local admin 
passwords.  The programmers were sustained in their argument that they could 
not function as programmers when they were being treated like file clerks.  
This sort of turf war is all too common in large companies.
 
-- Mike
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