Hello All!
With archivers such as LHA and InfoZip's ZIP, I use the "Pipe" command for 
example to archive files in alphabetic (or any other) order; so far I have 
been unable to figure out how to use "Pipe" with JAR (or ARJ):
            DIR *.* /o:n /b | LHA a filename.lzh     (very fast!)
or:         DIR *.* /o:n /b | ZIP filename.zip -@    (very slow!)
While sorting has little or no effect for standard archivers such as LHA, ZIP 
and ARJ, it does have a major effect for "solid" archivers, e.g. JAR.  JAR, 
during the "Analyze" process, does already _some_ sorting of it's own to 
group files automatically.  But I can help this process and pre-sort files by 
extension and achieve much better compression with "solid" archivers such as 
JAR.  Unfortunately, with JAR (also with ARJ), instead of using "Pipe", I 
have to create a "listfile":
                  DIR *.* /o:e /b >listfile.txt
This will create a "bare" (/b) listing of all files in the current directory
sorted by extension.  For JAR, I would then execute:
                JAR a filename.jar !listfile.txt
Example: archiving all files in my C:\WINDOWS folder (401 files, 13,374,614 
bytes) without pre-sorting results in a JAR archive (normal compr.) of 
6,081,173 bytes.  The same thing, but pre-sorted by extension using the above 
listfile.txt example, results in 5,455,226 bytes, a saving of 10.3% :-)
How can I use the "Pipe" command with ARJ and especially with JAR and avoid 
the extra step of creating a "listfile"?
Robert, if you're reading this, can you enlighten me, please?
Cheers, Hans
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