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echo: golded
to: KAI RICHTER
from: MARK LEWIS
date: 2015-06-26 19:43:00
subject: Golded+ and QWK

26 Jun 15 23:47, you wrote to me:

 KR>>> I never heard of QWK networks,

 ml>> that's ok...

 KR>>> QWK is a point to point protocol between a BBS and an offline user.

 ml>> no... the PCRELAY/RIME network (mainly PCBoard systems) was
 ml>> completely QWK...

 KR> Why don't you call it RIME when you are talking about RIME networking?
 KR> ;) I wouldn't call ftn networks squish or jam networking and QWK
 KR> networking is same confusing.

RIME and PCRELAY were two separate and different entities...

here's a link to a book on google about PCRELAY...

https://books.google.com/books?id=x2kb8n32nTMC&pg=PT268&lpg=PT268&dq=bbs+RIME+P
CRELAY&source=bl&ots=iWPqY-J7WE&sig=frji3YSxblMNVtbx__Ag4mKjcQc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t
-KNVe_dA8X5-AGL1IDICA&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA# v=onepage&q=bbs%20RIME%20PCRELAY&f=false

same as above but shortened... http://tinyurl.com/ngm863g

page 5 is what i was shown...


RIME was "RelayNet (tm) International Message Exchange (RIME) BBS Network"...

http://cd.textfiles.com/hamradio/misc/relaynet/bylaws.txt


PCRelay was one package that was used... there was at least one other but i
don't recall all the details... i just remember that it was known as
RIME/PCRelay for the most part... the actual transfer required additional
software, too... that was a scripted terminal program which, just like a user,
called into the hub bbs, logged in to the qwk account for the calling system,
went to the proper menu and initiated the QWK upload and download of
messages... after the transfer, it logged off just like a user and then the
PCRelay software munched on the QWK bundle and tossed those messages into the
bbs' message areas...


 ml>> the main difference between an end user and another system was that a
 ml>> system was allowed to post messages with different user names...

 KR> Then the same limitations apply and it still was a point to point
 KR> protokoll where one BBS became "user" and fetched mail from another
 KR> BBS via QWK?

yes...

 ml>> it appears to me that golded can be used like bluewave or multimail
 ml>> where it can accept QWK mail and (unlike the others) unpacks it into
 ml>> JAM or SQUish or whatever message bases...

 KR> I don't think so. Golded is no tosser, it can access the message base
 KR> which is for QWK the QWK file set and generate a QWK standard answer
 KR> packet.

like i said, i haven't tried it... it may just be able to read and reply like
multimail, bluewave reader, slmr and others...

 KR> Maybe move/copy mails from the QWK files into sqd or jam echoarea is
 KR> possible.

maybe :)

 ml>>>> so when starting a message reply or original, there's no way to
 ml>>>> edit the From name and From address?

 KR>>> No. There is a way. The random system is just the default auto-fill
 KR>>> but can

 ml>> random name choosing is not a good thing when it comes to posting
 ml>> messages...

 KR> Nobody wrote about random names. The thing is called random system and
 KR> i hope you don't think the creator was that stupid to create random
 KR> names.

i didn't say that but thanks for the twist :)

 KR> "No" means no to your "no way". To be clear i said there is a way.
 KR> Looks like my english is more worse than i thought. ;)

oh! hahaha... it is all good :)

 KR>>> be edited by cursor up too. Some keywords can be used many times,
 KR>>> like origin and aka, there is a change function and you can select
 KR>>> from a list to use one. I never tried, but i think USERNAME can be
 KR>>> defined many times too.

 ml>> too bad that one cannot configure an area to use a specific username
 ml>> by default...

 KR> That is exactly what you can.

yes, i think it was nick that showed me a config for that...

 KR> The random system chooses between two given origin definitions
 KR> randomly. What would happen if the is one origin definition only? What
 KR> would happen if there is one username definition only?

see? the name "random" just implies some automatic choice using a selector to
choose from more than one option... it just throws me off the scent...

 ml>> that would allow for what is being asked for... in areas xyz, i want
 ml>> to use this name by default

 KR> group xyz
 KR> username "this name"
 KR> endgroup

right... i saw this now :)

 ml>> but in areas pdq i want to use another name...

 KR> group pdq
 KR> username "another name"
 KR> endgroup

 KR> would do your wish. xyz and pdq must be exact echotags and be before
 KR> other wildcarded echotags. In the random system the first hit counts.

echotags? not groups?? why is it called "group" then? i have my echotags
grouped for similar items... eg: group z is my automatically added areas... it
is at the bottom of the list... group a is my local areas... group b is fidonet
backbone carried areas... i also break out administrative areas into their own
groups... these groups are the same as the groups the tosser uses...

 KR>>> Yupp, that's common procedure. The random system of golded just adds
 KR>>> some kind of lazyness. ;) Together with templates you could have
 KR>>> random mail introduction lines or footers too.

 ml>> i understand the random thing but i don't see it as being valid for
 ml>> specific uses like the one being asked about ;)

 KR> I never thought someone could believe that random names could be a
 KR> reasonable feature. :)

 KR> Even the AKA keyword in the random system isn't choosen randomly.
 KR> Multiple AKAs gives the option for a menu to select one AKA from. I
 KR> never tried with usernames but i think it's the same.

ok...

)\/(ark

... Left over turkey induced anorexia.
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