0n (26 Jun 08) Roger Nelson wrote to Joe Bruchis...

JB> Cindy Haglund wrote in a message to Anne Page:

 RN> JB>CH> DOgs accept humans as alpha unless we don't act it. Then we
 RN> confuse JB>CH> them. And some dogs, being natural alphas themselves
 RN> will BE the JB>CH> alpha over their passive owner.

JB> Caesar Milan has proved that many times over, hasn't he?

 RN> I know, from watching his show from time to time, it is all about what
 RN> he calls energy.  It takes a special person to influence strange
 RN> animals.  There was a woman who had a TV show at one time who did very
 RN> much the same as Milan does, but I haven't seen her in years nor can I
 RN> recall her name.

There it is. Thanks Roger. Yes Joe. He has indeed. In his book "Be a
Leader of the Pack" He makes it so clear ... well I do not know how
anybody could make it more clear. He takes great PAINS to make it
clear- so to try to help those who critiize him 'get it'. They never
will. I don't know why. I think they may be biased against him for
other reasons you may be aware of if you had read his books but
we won't go into here (off topic).

If you can remember the name Roger please let us know. The book I
mentioned is co authored and they say much the same CM does.
("Leader of the Pack: how to take control of your relationship with
your dog" by Nancy Baer and Steve Duno

ALL three of these people emphaize you don't have to be a tyrant to be
a leader. Some folks think exerting any control is being a tyrant so
that's why so many dogs are as spoiled with no boundaries or limits as
kids are. Sigh.

Cind

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