Hello mark,

On 05 Jun 15 12:46, mark lewis wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 ml> actually, all three readers, TimED, GoldED and MsgED, use the same chs
 ml> translation files... if others can't translate as much as golded does,
 ml> that just means that they don't have the additional chs files and they
 ml> don't have the config stuff telling them what chs files to use for
 ml> which translations...

News to me I suppose. I have MsgEd installed here and all it is provided with 
is translation tables that only support 128 character translations, not the 
full 256. That's why I originally went with Golded in the first place.

 NB>> Anyhow, you had mentioned that the STATS echo looks off to you.
 NB>> In the last 10 messages posted there, when I switch to ter-i14b
 NB>> and use a 256 glyph font, both of Bill's posts display correctly,
 NB>> but none of yours do.

 ml> i don't know why... bill is using the same script i am using to
 ml> generate the traffic graph and the transfer stats chart... the graph
 ml> uses the single line frame characters and then at least two or three
 ml> of the box characters for the bars on the graph...

I didn't convert my golded config fully over to CP437 the last time, as I was 
in a hurry to leave town. Now I have it converting properly (note the CHRS 
kludge on this message) and all your stats posts are displaying correctly.

 ml> they are plain CP437 from a CP437 machine...

Confirmed. They display fine here now.

 ml> i might try that... it seems to be similar to the 437_437, 850_850 and
 ml> others of the same nature... except that those all contain the upper
 ml> 256 characters whereas yours doesn't have any at all... hummm...

That still most likely won't get your line and box drawing characters you're 
looking for. I have a config here that let's me stick with UTF-8 on my console,
but displays CP437 just fine at the moment. I'll verify to make sure everything
is in working order and then see what I can do to give you a hand.

 ml> properly... i have just switched this golded script to using those
 ml> echo escape code you posted... they are the same as being used on T's
 ml> machine... i also set golded to CP437 which should be seen in the
 ml> control lines on this post... i went to the stats echo and looked,
 ml> again, at my graph posting and it looks better but none of the box
 ml> characters are being shown... only the frame characters... the boxes
 ml> are being shown as question marks in a white circle and i think that
 ml> means that there's nothing in the character table in the font for
 ml> them... that puts me/us back to the damned font mess so i guess i'll
 ml> have to root around in the ubuntu and/or debian support areas to try
 ml> to find a font that does pure CP437 with all the proper 256 glyphs...

You mentioned a couple different approaches already.. so I'm a little confused.
Are you using KDE's "Konsole" or an actual gui-less TTY console?

If the former, setfont may not work in a gui program as I think it's 
specifically for a gui-less console. You would have to use Konsole's settings 
for changing the font and/or xorg.conf settings as X handles fonts and 
character sets differently.

I don't use X at all here, so while my config seems to work for me it's only in
a gui-less environment and utilizes the terminus-fonts package that were 
installed to /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (via Archlinux's pacman package 
manager. More than likely a bit different in Kubuntu).

If you're trying to do all of this in an X environment, what I've been saying 
may not help you at all. :(

Regards,
Nick

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