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to: Herbert Rosenau
from: Stewart Honsberger
date: 1999-12-06 17:13:24
subject: Install

05 Dec 99 14:48, Herbert Rosenau wrote to Stewart Honsberger:

 SH>> Why? I've never had a problem. Besides, if you get a DOS app that
 SH>> needs more, just change it for that specific VDM.

 HR> Yes, you my change it for each DOS/Win program separatly. But it's 
 HR> better to have a more practical value as default. You would omit some 
 HR> unwanted problems.

Maybe it's just because of the small amount of DOS software I use. I've
got all my default settings configure to the minimum values to conserve
as much memory as possible for OS/2 apps.

 SH>> I don't think that (the first value) needs to be set quite that
 SH>> high. I've got mine at 16MeB's right now, which should give me
 SH>> plenty of time to start killing errant apps before I overflow.

 HR> It should be quite higher. Because this is the point OS/2 will warn 
 HR> you if the FREE room on disk containing swapper.dat sinks under that 
 HR> limit. On an I386/16 and old, slow disks 2M was enough. On a PII it 
 HR> will you let STOP the system before you can see a warning. If you 
 HR> swapper is on a (logical disk) with a lot of free place let the 
 HR> system the chance to warn you before it has to stop.

Put simply - my swapfile has 123MeB's to grow in, from a default size of
32MeB's. If it ever grows that much that quickly, I won't be closing
apps - I'll be three-fingered-saluting the machine post-haste.

 LP>>>> THREADS=256
 HR>>> 512

 SH>> Again - why? I'm at 256 and have never once come close to running
 SH>> out, and I've even tried. :>

 HR> Inside the system is a limited area of management data. This area is 
 HR> created during boot time and can't grow. The Thread-/processes table 
 HR> is one of them.

I realize that.

 HR> You should not run hard on any limit because if you're always near 
 HR> that you my quickly run out of it. Some application doesn't check all 
 HR> and every error. Thereby normally a thread start goes well. But if 
 HR> threads is to small it fails - and the application too. Do you like 
 HR> to lose data?

Like I said - I've never even come close to running out. Running a
personnal system with several apps loaded (ICQ client, MP3 player,
office suite, Fido mailer, VModem, two POP3 mail checkers, RC5 client,
TCP/IP keep-alive, etc..) I haven't even hit 200 yet. If ever I notice
that I'm running out, I might raise it - but in the mean time, why the
overhead?

Stewart Honsberger,
  blackdeath@tinys.oix.com

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