Hello George,

>LL>GP>You do know why these lands became Israel's?

>LL>Yes.  The Jews stole it.  Of course, the land doesn't really belong to
>LL>Israel.  After all, no government recognizes Israel's
"right" to own the
>LL>West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, or Jerusalem.

GP>Why not?

Because the Jews stole it.  Which is why governments around the world
note those territories as "occupied territories".

GP>Considering Jerusalem is well-known to be the "City of
David" and everybody
GP>KNOWS that King David was a Jew (and NOT a Muslim, who didn't exist until
GP>thousands of years later!)

The status of Jerusalem has never been determined, as noted by the
United Nations.  As such, neither the Jews nor the Palestinians can
claim exclusive right to own Jerusalem.

>LL>I cannot say I recall anything of that nature, given that it was the
>LL>Jews who were the aggressor in every conflict.  In fact, at no time did
>LL>any fighting occur in Israel.

GP>You gotta stop relying on those neo-Nazi newsletters for your information,
GP>because your info is COMPLETELY false!

The British trained the Jews, and armed the Jews, a full six months
before allowing the Jews to invade Palestine.  And then, on May 14,
1948, a handful of Jews (none of whom were residents of Palestine)
proclaimed Israel to be a state!

GP>in 1948, soon after the partition(terms agreed upon by Arab & Jew alike)
GP>Egypt+Syria+Lebanon put together a coalition force in an attempt to "push
GP>Israel into the sea"(ie. to completely annihilate every trace of
all things
GP>Jewish)

The Jews sought to wipe out the Palestinians, not the other way around.

>GP>It's a long established principle that lands acquired in defensive wa
>GP>belong to the victor!

>LL>In that case, we'll have to return Poland to the Nazis.  We'll also
>LL>have to return Austria to the Nazis.  And Czechoslovakia.  And France.
>LL>And all other lands the Nazis occupied.

GP>Since when did Poland win land defensively from the Nazis?

With help from their Allied friends, the Russians.  ;)

GP>Hitler attempted to take over all of Poland to annex it, with the rest of
GP>Europe, to Germany!

Hitler fought a defensive war, according to Germans.  All Hitler did
was try to reclaim what rightfully belonged to Germany.

>LL>The Jews do not have an exclusive claim to the land of Palestine.
>LL>They never did.  They do not now.  And they never will have any such
>LL>claim.

GP>There was no land of Palestine for the THOUSANDS of years it was known as
GP>"Israel"

The Jews have only controlled Palestine for a few hundred years in the
past three thousand years.  Muslims have controlled Palestine for a far
longer period of time.  Same with other groups.

GP>And, as I said, in 1948 the Arabs & Jews agreed to a division
where the Arab
GP>got 89% of the land(& first choice) and the Jews got only 11%
(including giv
GP>up lots of land they had actual paper deeds/title to!)

Palestinians have never accepted Israel's "right" to steal Palestinian
land!  And the Jews have never accepted limiting the lands they now
occupy as being finite.  IOW, the Jews have created an expansionist
state known as "Israel", and have made the nation of Israel its new
religion - thus replacing their old god of YAHWEH.

GP>The outside Arab forces (there were ONLY outside-Israel Arabs then) put
GP>together a coalition in an attempt to destroy Israel (it insulted them to ha
GP>a Democracy in their midst, that treated women with respect/equality!)

Thank God for Hamas having won the Palestinian elections!

>LL>Lemme see if I got this right.  Jews from Europe illegally emigrate to
>LL>Palestine and claim that land as their own, denying the inhabitants who
>LL>live there their right to exist.  Very interesting...

GP>What illegally? Only because Hitler made it illegal for Jews to go anywhere
GP>his ovens!

The British controlled Palestine.  The Jews snuck in, through illegal
means, in order to claim what was not theirs.  Hitler had no problem
with the Jews leaving Germany for other lands.  The problem was, nobody
else wanted to let the Jews in.  Including the British, who controlled
Palestine.

GP>The Jews BOUGHT land in "Israel-Palestine"(as it was
officially known then)
GP>moved there, and worked hard to reclaim desert & swamp to build
it into viab
GP>farmland/etc. -- THEN the Arabs attacked to STEAL the land they had formerly
GP>sold to the Jews for many millions of dollars!

The Jews did not buy land from Palestinians - at least not at fair
market value.  Instead, they stole the land, bulldozed whatever
buildings or homes were on that land, gave the Palestinian owners
of that land a token amount, and built Jewish buildings and homes
on that land.  IOW, the Jews stole it.

--Lee


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