25 May 09 09:49, Mimi Gallandt wrote to Ross Cassell:

 MG> Ross Cassell -> TIM RICHARDSON wrote:

 RC>> Hello TIM!

 RC>> 24 May 09 17:39, you wrote to JOE BRUCHIS:

 JB>>>> "On May 14, 1948, the United States, under President Truman,
 RC>> became JB>> the first country to extend de facto recognition to the
 RC>> State of JB>> Israel, 11 minutes after Israel declared itself an
 RC>> independent JB>> nation.

 TR>>> That was the biggest mistake an American president ever made.

 RC>> One could argue that Vietnam ranked up there.

 RC>> After all, our involvement only delayed the North gobbling up the
 RC>> South by only 10-25 years, and it didnt alter the outcome of the
 RC>> cold war chess match which the Soviets ultimately lost.

 TR>>> It involved America in the Arab-Israeli war.....which has been
 RC>> going TR> on for thousands of years....since back before the days of
 RC>> Abraham, TR> Isaac, and Jacob!

 RC>> More Cold War Politics...

 RC>> Remember the USSR recognized Israel too, or did you forget that?

 RC>> Had we not stepped in, the USSR would have simply exercised its
 RC>> influence..

 RC>> Pure and simple a game of chess, we move they counter-move and vice
 RC>> versa.

 TR>>> And that has come back to slap America in the face, big time.

 RC>> Every action has an opposite reaction...

 RC>> Had we stayed out, perhaps the Kremlin would have been the ones
 RC>> influencing the Sheiks on the price of oil?

 TR>>> It was a direct cause of the 9\11\01 attack on America!

 RC>> It is part of one factor...

 RC>> Being in Saudi Arabia among other things played in as well.

 TR>>> There's no other way to say it: that goddamn, fucking Israel has
 RC>> cost TR> America:

 TR>>> High gasoline prices

 RC>> No we got plenty of people over here to blame for that..

 TR>>> Dead and injured over a period of about forty years

 RC>> Drama...

 RC>> Vietnam..

 RC>> Was that Israels fault, should we blame Korea on them as well..

 RC>> How many lives lost or ruined?

 RC>> What about the death toll we suffer on our own highways?

 TR>>> A continuing war that we probably won't win, because the goddamn
 TR>>> fuckin' democrats suck, and ain't got no fuckin' guts!

 RC>> No the Dems hate Israel as much as you do if not moreso.

 TR>>> The dirty low-dog sons-of-bitches steal technology from us,
 RC>> practice TR> espionage against us, treat us like an enemy. We ought
 RC>> to carpet bomb TR> the whole fuckin' country of Israel!

 RC>> Yes and your point..

 MG> Why would Israelis steal technology when they have some of the most
 MG> intelligent scientists in the world? Check the list of Nobel prizes
 MG> awarded to Israelis and compare it to the tiny (if any) Arabic award
 MG> winners. I have read that Israeli scientists invented the lintel
 MG> chip. They also invented the Uzi. Here's a little teaser about
 MG> Israeli Military Industry makers of armaments for the IDF and the
 MG> world:

 RC>> Israel Military Industries Ltd. (IMI) is among the world leaders in
 RC>> the design, development and manufacturing of innovative, high
 RC>> performance defence and military systems. The company operates also
 RC>> in the commercial sector, utilizing its state-of-the-art
 RC>> technologies and marketing network.


 RC>> Armies all over the world have come to rely on IMI's innovative,
 RC>> high-performance solutions and unique scope of integrated
 RC>> capabilities, ranging from threat assessment and basic R&D, through
 RC>> full-scale development and production, to system deployment and
 RC>> after-sales support.


 RC>> IMI's world class, combat-proven weapon systems are derived from the
 RC>> Israel Defence Forces (IDF) operational requirements. IMI products
 RC>> have been qualified with the IDF, USA Army, Air Force and Navy and
 RC>> other NATO nations' Armed Forces, and meet a host of additional
 RC>> relevant client-defined needs and standards.

 RC>> http://tinyurl.com/qhem7e


 RC>> If you dont think we havent spied on our own allies, UK, NATO and
 RC>> the
 RC>>  ilk, you are sadly mistaken.

 TR>>> If I had my say, Israel would have been on its own from day one!
 RC>> And TR> any espionage Israel did against the United States would
 RC>> have brought TR> an air strike!

 RC>> You forget that Israel won its first war without our help or
 RC>> armaments..

 MG> Without *ANYONE'S* help.

She better check her history books. The US intervened in the Arab/Israeli
war of 1948...

 RC>> We started helping them when the Soviets began helping Israels foes,
 RC>> its CHESS.


 TR>>> Fuck Israel! And all its supporters, too! Tom Lantis and the
 RC>> whole TR> fuckin' bunch of 'em! If it wasn't for Israel.....the
 RC>> United States TR> would not be at war today! Gasoline would be
 RC>> priced decently, and the TR> majority of the world wouldn't hate us!

 RC>> Its not that simple Tim, but everyone wants a whipping boy.

 MG> Tim and most Israel haters fail to recognize that the essence of
 MG> Islam is to conquer and hold the whole world in its grip. Israel has
 MG> nothing to do with the hopes of radical Islam. Hitler held the same
 MG> goal and his had nothing to do with Jews either (except in his
 MG> disordered mind). Everyone who tries to rule the whole world
 MG> eventually fails. So far the longest lasting hopeful is Islam. Trying
 MG> to take back Israel is just another block in their goal.

 MG> --
 MG> L'Chaim,
 MG> Mimi

 MG> mgallandt670{at}gmail.com

 MG> http://www.myspace.com/fcpnmimi

 MG> "Anti-Zionism = Anti-Semitism"
 MG> - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
 MG> ". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are
 MG> merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the
 MG> high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green
 MG> earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's
 MG> own truth. Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been
 MG> and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full
 MG> agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic,
 MG> and ever will be so..."

 MG> Golda Meir once said, "There will never be peace until the
 MG> Palestinians love their children more than they hate us."

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