->  ->> If you accept the Bush quote as real then you should accept the BO
->  J> quote.
-> 
->  J> Uh, no. The Bush quote has been bandied about for years.
-> 
-> Doesn't make it accurate or even real.

True.
-> 
->  J> ..the Obama 'quote'  is an obvious partisan attempt at defusement.
-> 
-> Nope, just an attempt to show that anyone that claims the Bush quote is
real,
-> is full of it.

:-)



-> Come on John,  You seem to want to step up to the plate. Be a hero to
the left...

I have no desire to be a hero. Being an apologist is hard enough. :-)


,
-> be the first to provide a credible source for the Bush quote. Name some
names.
-> Give a time and date.
-> 
->  J> In addition to which the Bush quote is fairly likely, the Obama one
is not.
-> 
-> The Obama "quote" is just as likely as the Bush quote.

I think you are quite mistaken.

(From Google._ Search "Constitution Goddamned")
"

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to
meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the
controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period
immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that
liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces
with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose
renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous
provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the
President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet
Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the
Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that
the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just
a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all
confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a
goddamned piece of paper.

A ton other other stuff as usual on Google I just picked the first I saw.

I up my 35% to about 60%...as it being likely.

Hell, I have the 'audacity to hope'- you have the option of doubt...

Onward!



















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