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from: George Pope
date: 2006-01-29 11:26:00
subject: `Positive Hatred`

LL> >LL>GP>You do know why these lands became Israel's?
LL>
LL> >LL>Yes.  The Jews stole it.  Of course, the land doesn't
really belong to
LL> >LL>Israel.  After all, no government recognizes Israel's
"right" to own th
LL> >LL>West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, or Jerusalem.
LL>
LL> GP>Why not?
LL>
LL> Because the Jews stole it.  Which is why governments around the world
LL> note those territories as "occupied territories".

How did the Jews steal Jerusalem?

LL> GP>Considering Jerusalem is well-known to be the "City of
David" and everyb
LL> GP>KNOWS that King David was a Jew (and NOT a Muslim, who didn't exist unti
LL> GP>thousands of years later!)
LL>
LL> The status of Jerusalem has never been determined, as noted by the
LL> United Nations.  As such, neither the Jews nor the Palestinians can
LL> claim exclusive right to own Jerusalem.

1) the whole world, except those with a prejudicial hatred for Jews, KNOWS that
Jerusalem was always the capital of a Jewish ISRAEL.

2) the parts of Jerusalem that were held by Arabs after 1948 were lost when the
Arabs attacked Israel attempting to eradicate her from existence.  Lands gained
in defensive war are rightfully the property of the victor -- that's one of the
oldest tenets of war.

LL> The British trained the Jews, and armed the Jews, a full six months
LL> before allowing the Jews to invade Palestine.  And then, on May 14,
LL> 1948, a handful of Jews (none of whom were residents of Palestine)
LL> proclaimed Israel to be a state!

What crap?
The Britsish had their navy out there blocking Jewish refugees who were
escaping the Holocaust in Europe from entering "Palestine". . .
And the British, after the war, were putting Jews into concentration camps in
Cypress.

The Brits didn't give the Jews anything -- one of their parliamentarians did
officially state that it would be FAIR to give the Jews their old homeland back
(this was in the 1920's he(Balfour) said this); but Britain merely handed over
THEIR property (Israel-Palestine) to the newly formed U.N. to divvy up between
Jews & Arabs, so as to provide for a homeland for the Jews who had none, and
yet another religious dictatorship for the Arabs who had plenty. . .

LL> GP>in 1948, soon after the partition(terms agreed upon by Arab
& Jew alike)
LL> GP>Egypt+Syria+Lebanon put together a coalition force in an
attempt to "pus
LL> GP>Israel into the sea"(ie. to completely annihilate every
trace of all thi
LL> GP>Jewish)
LL>
LL> The Jews sought to wipe out the Palestinians, not the other way around.

Not even close!  The only "Palestinians" before 1967 were Jewish
Palestinians!
There were no real Arab settlements in Palestine, because the Arabs that were
in the area were strictly nomadic pirates(raiding Jewish farms/communes)

The so-called Arab Palestinians fighting for a homeland are actually ex-patriot
Jordanians, who got left behind after the '67 war!

LL> >GP>It's a long established principle that lands acquired in
defensive wa
LL> >GP>belong to the victor!
LL>
LL> >LL>In that case, we'll have to return Poland to the Nazis.  We'll also
LL> >LL>have to return Austria to the Nazis.  And Czechoslovakia. 
And France.
LL> >LL>And all other lands the Nazis occupied.
LL>
LL> GP>Since when did Poland win land defensively from the Nazis?
LL>
LL> With help from their Allied friends, the Russians.  ;)

Poland in no way increased in size -- they barely held onto what was already
theirs!

LL> GP>Hitler attempted to take over all of Poland to annex it, with the rest o
LL> GP>Europe, to Germany!
LL>
LL> Hitler fought a defensive war, according to Germans.  All Hitler did
LL> was try to reclaim what rightfully belonged to Germany.

Yeah, right -- you actually think Hitler was in any way a VICTIM in his
megalomaniac attempt to become a supreme ruler over an all-'Aryan' world?
(I put Aryan in quotes, because the real Aryans are the blackest of the
northern Indians/Pakistanis!)

LL> The Jews have only controlled Palestine for a few hundred years in the
LL> past three thousand years.  Muslims have controlled Palestine for a far
LL> longer period of time.  Same with other groups.

The Muslims have not "controlled" Palestine for over 1,000 years!
(especially considering there were no "Muslims" until c. 700CE!)

LL> Palestinians have never accepted Israel's "right" to steal
Palestinian
LL> land!  And the Jews have never accepted limiting the lands they now
LL> occupy as being finite.  IOW, the Jews have created an expansionist
LL> state known as "Israel", and have made the nation of Israel its new
LL> religion - thus replacing their old god of YAHWEH.

What "steal"?  Jews bought up swamp & desert land from Arab
chieftains who
claimed ownership of His Majesty's lands, then these Jewish settlers drained
the swamps, irrigated the deserts, and reclaimed this land that used to be lush
with milk and honey, until the Arab invaders let it go to ruin, through their
uncaring neglect (which makes sense considering they knew they were squatters
on ancestrally Jewish lands!)

LL> GP>The outside Arab forces (there were ONLY outside-Israel Arabs then) put
LL> GP>together a coalition in an attempt to destroy Israel (it insulted them t
LL> GP>a Democracy in their midst, that treated women with respect/equality!)
LL>
LL> Thank God for Hamas having won the Palestinian elections!

So you support those who openly declare their intentions to use terrorism to
murder innocent & unarmed women & children?

So shall we hope that al Qaeda runs a political party in your country & wins,
too?

LL> The British controlled Palestine.  The Jews snuck in, through illegal
LL> means, in order to claim what was not theirs.  Hitler had no problem
LL> with the Jews leaving Germany for other lands.  The problem was, nobody
LL> else wanted to let the Jews in.  Including the British, who controlled
LL> Palestine.

The Jews BOUGHT land from the local owners of title, then attempted to move in
and farm those lands in spite of anti-Semitism by Britain & surrounding Arabs

LL> The Jews did not buy land from Palestinians - at least not at fair
LL> market value.  Instead, they stole the land, bulldozed whatever
LL> buildings or homes were on that land, gave the Palestinian owners
LL> of that land a token amount, and built Jewish buildings and homes
LL> on that land.  IOW, the Jews stole it.

They bought land from the Arab chieftains in the area, at extremely inflated
prices (considering it was only swamp & desert until the Jews built it up)

Because I care,
|<+]::-)  (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))
(aka Reverend George A. Pope)

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