On 06-03-09, JOHNJWILSON said to ALAN HESS:


-> TR>Fuck Israel!


-> TR>Don't like it?


-> TR>Tough shit!


-> It's your opinion - you have every right to express it.


JJ>Not in my living room. Purposely contentious, ignorantly stated, against
JJ>all moral principal...but no surprise. He may honestly believe some of
JJ>that. :-). :-|. :-)


I believe it all. And its got nothing whatever to do with `all moral
principle'!


Let me tell you guys something:


Sometime back in the early sixties, I think, a group of Israeli secret police
(or whatever the fuck they styled themselves back then) located, stalked, set
up, and kidnapped a man shortly after he got off of a bus coming home from
work, in some South American country or other.


He was bundled into a car, drugged up to keep him from struggling and possibly
attracting attention, and taken to a location where he was held in a
contstant drugged up condition.


At some point, he was spirited aboard an aircraft headed to Israel.


That man was Adolf Eichmann.


Now!


Which one of you two bright lights have been reading Danny boy Ceppa's echo
lately? Either of you? Both of you?


The skreed of Danny boy and his choir castrati is; `if we act like they do, we
are no better than they are. Worse, in fact, because we are (supposedly)
civilized.


And nothing......NOTHING! justifies in the minds of Danny boy and his choir
castrati, going all out to locate terrorist leaders, terrorist acts in the
planning stages, etc etc. If we happen to use enhanced techniques to interview
terrorists, we are just terrible! Forget the 3000+ Americans who died in the
9\11 attack! we are just terrible!


Well....People? I remember the kidnapping of Eichmann (1960, I believe), I was
about 19 or so.


Where was the outrage?!


A person kidnapped by foreign agents, right off the street in view of his own
home!


Where was the outrage then? Some of the people who are now running our House
and Senate were around back then, too. NONE of them expressed any outrage over
this illegal international crime. None!


And don't cough up the excuse that......`oh well.....that was different'! It
wasn't.


That was the same sort of tactics the Nazis themselves used on occasion.


Now....don't be a pair of horses ass's and start claiming I'm defending Adolf
Eichmann, I'm not. I'm glad he was caught, glad the trial brought out so much
material about his crimes, and I'm glad he got executed.


Thats not the point; the point is the Israelis used terrorist, Nazi-like
tactics, violated the laws and proceedures of a foreign sovereign nation, and
never batted an eye!


And the United States (make that read many of the people who are around now,
screaming about how terrible we are over terrorists) didn't say much of
anything. If they said anything at all!


So......we are no better than `they' are...from a long time ago! The Israelis
did it. We said nothing, which is the same as condoning it! And you both can
just put your little `against all moral principle' crap right back in your
pocket!


It was about then that I started paying attention to the situation with Israel
and the Palestinians-Arabs-etc etc. And I don't have the same complacent,
permissive (toward Israel) views that you guys and others do. I'm not afraid
to find fault with some of the things Israel does. I will not be silenced by
being threatened with that stupid-assed `anti-semite' club!


The vast majority of the problems in the Middle East today can be traced right
to the hatred between Israel and the Arabs.


The Arabs hate Israel. Israel hates the Arabs.


The Israelites and the Arabs have hated each other for thousands of years. And
they neither one will be satisfied until they destroy each other. And neither
side gives a fuck how much of the rest of the world they take out along with
them.


Israel will heave a nuke at Iran in a heartbeat. The Israelis are probably
going to start a war with Iran soon. I suspect Israel is preparing to bomb
parts of Iran in the very near future (sooner, probably, than anyone
suspects), and thats all we need.


If you don't want to read anything that isn't all peaches and roses about
Israel...don't bring the subject up to me.






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