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RS> sense is a large part of it. It makes a HELL of a difference
RS> to how kids perform in highschool say.

BG> Yep, and their inherent attitudes almost ALWAYS come from their
BG> parents, either directly or indirectly.  So why the fuck are you
BG> arguing the point when we're essentially saying the same thing?

Coz its got sweet fuck all to do with 'loss of face' thats why.
Kids grow up in a society which just had different values, valuing
that stuff differently. Nothing to do with 'loss of face'

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