BK>  Every other industrialized country has national health care,
 BK>  which is their big advantage. The transplants do not have that
 BK>  burden because they were not here 30 years ago. They are
 BK>  probably counting on the US haveing national health care before
 BK>  it becomes a problem for them.

 BK>  One way or another the employer pays for health care. Either
 BK>  they pay for insurance, or they increas employee's pay so the
 BK>  employees can pay for it. The only alternatives are govt health
 BK>  care or none.

There's that one note samba again.

 BA>>>> full pay for not working isn't nonsense either.

 BK>>>  Does that make it a good thing they do not get full pay for not
 BK>>>  working? Should Toyota drop their no layoff policy?

 BA>> Kawasaki has a no layoff policy, too.  Or at least they
 BA>> did.  During a plant shutdown at their Lincoln NE plant
 BA>> they had some of their otherwise idle work force assisting
 BA>> the city.

 BK>  Google the automakers job bank. They did the same thing. I say
 BK>  did, the job bank was shut down.

I don't do Internet.

 BK>>>  Believe it, GM is not going to give full pay for not working. If
 BK>>> they had to pay out the full pay they would have the people 
 BK>>> working.

 BA>>>> Auto workers in general, IMO, are grossly overpaid.

 BK>>>  CEOs, in general, IMO, are grossly overpaid.

 BA>> Depends on the CEO.  IMO most of them are.

 BK>  That's what "in general" means.

 BK>  And auto workers, earning a middle class income, are not
 BK>  overpaid, the rest of the working class, those earning less than  a
 BK> middle class income, are underpaid.

 BK>>>  Why do you object to autoworkers earning a middle class wage?

 BA>> Because $40/hour plus benefits is too much to pay for what
 BA>> is basically unskilled labor.  Skilled craftsmen make less
 BA>> than that in most places.

 BK>  When you get your numbers right you may realize how wrong you
 BK>  got it. Auto workers earn less than $40/hr plus benefits.

They also are paid twice as much or more than skilled craftsmen - including
the mechanics who have to track down and fix the mistakes they make.

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