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Ross Cassell -> TIM RICHARDSON wrote: RC> Hello TIM! RC> 24 May 09 17:39, you wrote to JOE BRUCHIS: JB>>> "On May 14, 1948, the United States, under President Truman, RC> became JB>> the first country to extend de facto recognition to the RC> State of JB>> Israel, 11 minutes after Israel declared itself an RC> independent JB>> nation. TR>> That was the biggest mistake an American president ever made. RC> One could argue that Vietnam ranked up there. RC> After all, our involvement only delayed the North gobbling up the RC> South by only 10-25 years, and it didnt alter the outcome of the cold RC> war chess match which the Soviets ultimately lost. TR>> It involved America in the Arab-Israeli war.....which has been RC> going TR> on for thousands of years....since back before the days of RC> Abraham, TR> Isaac, and Jacob! RC> More Cold War Politics... RC> Remember the USSR recognized Israel too, or did you forget that? RC> Had we not stepped in, the USSR would have simply exercised its RC> influence.. RC> Pure and simple a game of chess, we move they counter-move and vice RC> versa. TR>> And that has come back to slap America in the face, big time. RC> Every action has an opposite reaction... RC> Had we stayed out, perhaps the Kremlin would have been the ones RC> influencing the Sheiks on the price of oil? TR>> It was a direct cause of the 9\11\01 attack on America! RC> It is part of one factor... RC> Being in Saudi Arabia among other things played in as well. TR>> There's no other way to say it: that goddamn, fucking Israel has RC> cost TR> America: TR>> High gasoline prices RC> No we got plenty of people over here to blame for that.. TR>> Dead and injured over a period of about forty years RC> Drama... RC> Vietnam.. RC> Was that Israels fault, should we blame Korea on them as well.. RC> How many lives lost or ruined? RC> What about the death toll we suffer on our own highways? TR>> A continuing war that we probably won't win, because the goddamn TR>> fuckin' democrats suck, and ain't got no fuckin' guts! RC> No the Dems hate Israel as much as you do if not moreso. TR>> The dirty low-dog sons-of-bitches steal technology from us, RC> practice TR> espionage against us, treat us like an enemy. We ought RC> to carpet bomb TR> the whole fuckin' country of Israel! RC> Yes and your point.. Why would Israelis steal technology when they have some of the most intelligent scientists in the world? Check the list of Nobel prizes awarded to Israelis and compare it to the tiny (if any) Arabic award winners. I have read that Israeli scientists invented the lintel chip. They also invented the Uzi. Here's a little teaser about Israeli Military Industry makers of armaments for the IDF and the world: RC> Israel Military Industries Ltd. (IMI) is among the world leaders in RC> the design, development and manufacturing of innovative, high RC> performance defence and military systems. The company operates also RC> in the commercial sector, utilizing its state-of-the-art technologies RC> and marketing network. RC> Armies all over the world have come to rely on IMI's innovative, RC> high-performance solutions and unique scope of integrated RC> capabilities, ranging from threat assessment and basic R&D, through RC> full-scale development and production, to system deployment and RC> after-sales support. RC> IMI's world class, combat-proven weapon systems are derived from the RC> Israel Defence Forces (IDF) operational requirements. IMI products RC> have been qualified with the IDF, USA Army, Air Force and Navy and RC> other NATO nations' Armed Forces, and meet a host of additional RC> relevant client-defined needs and standards. RC> http://tinyurl.com/qhem7e RC> If you dont think we havent spied on our own allies, UK, NATO and the RC> ilk, you are sadly mistaken. TR>> If I had my say, Israel would have been on its own from day one! RC> And TR> any espionage Israel did against the United States would have RC> brought TR> an air strike! RC> You forget that Israel won its first war without our help or RC> armaments.. Without *ANYONE'S* help. RC> We started helping them when the Soviets began helping Israels foes, RC> its CHESS. TR>> Fuck Israel! And all its supporters, too! Tom Lantis and the RC> whole TR> fuckin' bunch of 'em! If it wasn't for Israel.....the RC> United States TR> would not be at war today! Gasoline would be priced RC> decently, and the TR> majority of the world wouldn't hate us! RC> Its not that simple Tim, but everyone wants a whipping boy. Tim and most Israel haters fail to recognize that the essence of Islam is to conquer and hold the whole world in its grip. Israel has nothing to do with the hopes of radical Islam. Hitler held the same goal and his had nothing to do with Jews either (except in his disordered mind). Everyone who tries to rule the whole world eventually fails. So far the longest lasting hopeful is Islam. Trying to take back Israel is just another block in their goal. -- L'Chaim, Mimi mgallandt670{at}gmail.com http://www.myspace.com/fcpnmimi "Anti-Zionism = Anti-Semitism" - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. ". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth. Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so..." Golda Meir once said, "There will never be peace until the Palestinians love their children more than they hate us." --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302)* Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 187 140/1 226/0 236/150 SEEN-BY: 249/303 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1418 266/1413 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 633/260 267 712/848 800/432 2222/700 2320/100 105 200 SEEN-BY: 5030/1256 @PATH: 123/789 500 261/38 633/260 267 |
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