JS>>      Not trying to be antagonistic here Thom. But what real purpose
 JS>> is there for you to have a listing in the nodelist in your capacity
 JS>> as echolist manager if nodes within Fidonet can not use that entry
 JS>> to contact you on echolist matters?

 TL>> Perhaps you have forgotten that routed netmail works...many people
 TL>> use that method instead of email.

 ml> sorry... if the listing of the echotags requires a password, why
 ml> would anyone use a non-secure method of transport unless they simply
 ml> didn't care if it was swipped from them?? nope, no thanks...

 RW> No one thinks the elist is any authority on echotags anymore. I
 RW> recently removed a user from the HAM echo without varification that
 RW> I'm the moderator of that echo by reference to the elist. (The HAM
 RW> echotag has been elisted by Thom LaCosta)

i saw mention of that a while back and could only wonder why and how...

 RW> By regularly posting the echo rules in the echo on a weekly basis,
 RW> that was all the proof I needed.

understood but that's not the point that i was adding/making in my reply...
sadly that point likely also leads to increased awareness of other problems
the list has had for several years... some that i've even tried to offer
assistance with to no avail :(

)\/(ark