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to: Thom Lacosta
from: Jeff Smith
date: 2007-02-09 17:55:34
subject: January 2007 Echolist

Hello Thom.

08 Feb 07 20:40, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


 JS>>>      Not trying to be antagonistic here Thom. But what real
 JS>>> purpose is there for you to have a listing in the nodelist in
 JS>>> your capacity as echolist manager if nodes within Fidonet can
 JS>>> not use that entry to contact you on echolist matters?

 TL>>> Perhaps you have forgotten that routed netmail works...many
 TL>>> people use that method instead of email.


       I have not as yet gotten your orginal reply to my message.


       I would have to echo Mark's questions. I don't consider there
to be any actual privacy in routed netmail. So if I am sending a netmail
that I need or desire to remain confidential I either need to send it
direct (Which you are preventing) or via email. For those that do not
have or choose not to use email you leave them with no other options.


     It would seem to me that if you are providing a service that involves
communication. You would make your service available to as many people as
possible using as many forms of communication that are possible. Yet you
choose to refuse communication via one of the primary forms of communication
in Fidonet. That being direct netmail.

 ml>> sorry... if the listing of the echotags requires a password, why
 ml>> would anyone use a non-secure method of transport unless they
 ml>> simply didn't care if it was swipped from them?? nope, no
 ml>> thanks...

      If I am sending things like personal information or passwords and
such. I will avoid using routed netmail. Regarding netmail, you do not
leave people with a more secure alternative.

 RW>> No one thinks the elist is any authority on echotags anymore. I
 RW>> recently removed a user from the HAM echo without varification
 RW>> that I'm the moderator of that echo by reference to the elist.
 RW>> (The HAM echotag has been elisted by Thom LaCosta)

 ml> i saw mention of that a while back and could only wonder why and
 ml> how...

 RW>> By regularly posting the echo rules in the echo on a weekly
 RW>> basis, that was all the proof I needed.

 ml> understood but that's not the point that i was adding/making in my
 ml> reply... sadly that point likely also leads to increased awareness of
 ml> other problems the list has had for several years... some that i've
 ml> even tried to offer assistance with to no avail :(

 ml> )\/(ark


Jeff

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