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echo: educator
to: MICHAEL MARTINEZ
from: CARL BOGARDUS
date: 1996-08-09 22:38:00
subject: Re: Ivan Illich

 CB> Hmm, I still use the keyboarding skills I learned in HS.
 MM> Actually, that's the aboslute best thing I ever learned in high school
 MM> , my typing skills, and I've used it a lot since then.  That's how
 MM> things should be structured, to offer you a skill 
 MM> that you want to learn,
Ahhh, but here is the catch, I didn't want to learn typing! The structured 
curriculum you and Ivan so oppose had typing as one of the required 
electives. Little did I know that I would be using it on a day to day basis.
 
 MM> Going from an 8th grade ed to college, if that's 
 MM> the way it's gonna be,
 MM> shouldn't cost $.  That's one of my points.
Your points are going nowhere, it costs far too much for the average Mexican 
citizen to attend school after the 8th grade, that is part of the reason 
Mexico has such problems and so great a difference between the haves and have 
nots. This is why all of the border states have an influx of illegal 
students, their families will do anything to see that their child gets an 
education. 
 
I think you and Ivan would make great ultraconservatives - however, many of 
the ideas are not practical--that is why these countries are "Third World". 
Great way to keep people in their "place".
 
This will be the end of my discussion about Ivan's ideas, I have heard enough 
to know I wish to know no more.
 
Carl
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