CH> TR>I remember the last time I tried to talk morals and ethics to a bunch
CH> of
CH>   >gangbangers.  You would need to be there to appreciate the
CH> feeling.
CH>   >I've even tried this more than once, and each time I had the feeling
CH> my time
CH>   >would have been better spent talking to a rock. I haven't given up,
CH> I'll try
CH>   >it again, but I think that my success rate is fairly close to zero.
CH> Agreed, as to gangbangers.  Of course when anyone has the attitude that
CH> they do, they should not complain when their 2nd Amendment rights are
CH> lost.
Man, no disrespect intended, but you 2 are talking like you know anything 
about the subject.  Don't you know, the moral talk doesn't work for mainly 2 
reasons:
        1.Your code has been replaced by their code.
        2.Many times in their world it's literally kill or be killed.
        Adress these issues and you'll be more than half way there.
Peace.
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