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to: VINCE COEN
from: JIM JACKSON
date: 2019-01-24 17:55:00
subject: Re: RFC on Pi/Hat type fo

On 2019-01-24, Vince Coen  wrote:
> Hello The!
>
> Thursday January 24 2019 09:45, you wrote to All:
>
>
> You mention using 512Mb Ram and as a new user of a Pi 3B+ which has 1 Gb Ram
> it does swap
> out with a basic install plus web, ftp, ssh services and a not on BBS (back
up
> only).
>
> Running a system monitor (Gkrelim) which itself takes up resources load often
> is high at
> least when I go in via ssh so I wish you luck.
>
> In other words your proposed system is not up to the task.
>
> Enev with a Pi 3B+ it will strugle at times depending on the direct HDD
> resources you have
> set up,
>

I'd disagree. It really does depend on how much use (number of concurrent
sessions etc) is being made of the services. I run a a Pi3B as a home
server that serves DNS, DHCP, imap, smtp, NFS, web, ntp, syslog-server,
ssh, openvpn for our, small, home network - and does some backup stuff.
And it doesn't have swap and runs for months and months and never crashes.

I'd say go for it with a pi W Zero, but watch what happens - and if it is
struggling, then try a 3B. But my guess is you'll be fine.

>
> > Ok. My 'lets connect some hifi gear to the network' project is picking
> > up pace.
>
> > At this stage I want a cheap solution, so this is as far as I have
> > got.
>
> > What the PI has to do:
> > =====================
>
> > - Boot headless.
> > - Connect to the house network by wifi on a fixed IP address
> > - Mount some drives via NFS
> > - Start a minimal web server as control panel for...
> > - Reading audio  files off the internet (radio stations) or the
> > server.
> >    and spit them out of a high quality DAC. RCA jacks to a rack
> > mounted
> >    preamp + power amp.
>
> > Files will be MP3 and FLAC  - will use mpg123 for the MP3 and flac to
> > pop the flac files out.
>
> > I will PROBABLY code the website in actual real C for low CPU cycles
> > and memory, though it might be PHP.
>
> > What looks like a sensible option is a Pi ZERO W with a pHAT DAC
> > (HifiBerry DAC+ Zero)
>
> > https://thepihut.com/products/hifiberry-dac-zero?ref=isp_rel_prd&isp_r
> > ef_pos=2
>
>
>
> > Questions:
> > ==========
> > 1/. Is 512MB RAM enough to run the most minimal of web servers
> > headless? I did run apache on 384M on *86, but I sometimes went into
> > swap... 2/. Should I use apache or run on something smaller? 3/. Is a
> > Pi Zero/W man enough to stream audio without stuttering (it surely
> > must be?). 4/. In order to bootstrap the install without a monitor or
> > keyboard (I COULD use Ethernet, for initial booting), I would like
> > feedback on whether the following method would work to get 'up and
> > running'? (a) format and install raspian on an SD card using SD USB
> > adapter on host computer (b) Whilst still attached to the host
> > computer, edit the config files to set up ssh access, wirless
> > networking
> >          and a fixed IP address.
> >     That is, enough to get an accessible bootable headless pi
> >      on the network in a 'well known' place?
> > 5/. Apart from logging issues, I see no real reson why the SD card
> >      ever will need to be written to in use, unless I need swap.
> >      Has anyone ever tried running a Pi with what amounts to a read
> > only
> >      mounted root partition? Can one disable logging?
>
>
> > Hope these questions are intersting to the community.
>
>
> > --
> > The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
> > diverted our attention away from what really matters to our
> > existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral
> > investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly
> > to deal with what it actually is.
>
>
>
> Vince
>

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