I will be happy to go back to my guys that voiced such opinions and forward
them on privately. I have a couple that are out of town right now as well.
Some funny thing about the holidays. 


>From a message by Space Ghost about Re: This may be a radical idea, but...:
> Pagan you stated :

"Every single one has said they don't want to play league because of the
kill scripts."

Could you please be specific??
please tell me either privately or publically EXACTLY
who has complained to u about kill scripts in league play...

As a league board member i havent had 1 single complaint about it and i
would like to know who exactly it is your talking about .

SG
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From: "pagan" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: This may be a radical idea, but...


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> I have played in 3 games.. Italian (which was de-sanctioned), Deep South,
and Boo. For a first year player, that is not bad, especially when you look
at the overwhelming percentage that has signed up and never played. I may
have played more if I had started before August, too, or doesn't that come
into consideration. The entry for me on Stardock Omega was made only to see
if Stonewall had corrected a database error. I do have the admin logs to
prove that I have never set foot in the game - I am not eligible to, and
that has always been respected.
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> If you are judging my ability to make a suggestion based on my playing
experience, you are missing a whole dimension. I have asked my regular
members to join in with playing league, and even had a couple who played in
the very early days. Every single one has said they don't want to play
league because of the kill scripts. And yes... I have seen them in league
play, both on Boo and in the Italian game, and both live and afk varieties.
I do have a few regulars that are quite skilled, and when they refuse to
play league, it is perhaps a clue that we need to find out why.
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> About half the players have said they don't feel ready for league.. let's
cultivate this middle ground so that next year you will have some other
competition that can play a bit better -- unless of course you don't want
that. You are always saying this game is dead... and it will be unless we
keep the mid-ranks involved.
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> I have heard from two other boards - Silver Wings and Coastgames - that
they are interested. As soon as we have a 4th, we can work on a game design
that will be mutually agreeable and pick a start date for the first match.
(If it has all been lost, basic idea would be to set a game that is playable
in 2-3 weeks. The corps would travel to one board, play the game, then move
to the next board in rotation, so that only one game is going on at a time.
The game will have a definite goal, just like league play. If we get enough
for 2 divisions, then we can have a quarterly final.) If there are
interested sysops out there, drop me a line so that we can work on it as a
group, please. With a bit of upfront teamwork, the individual load will be
minimal, I promise.
>
> Pagan
> Stardock Omega
> jmerci{at}interfold.com
> ICQ - 18545160
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> >From a message by Kemper3 about Re: This may be a radical idea, but...:
> > I see that you have played 3 league games.  One was on your own
> server and you say nobody there runs them.  One was in a game with
> me, and no one there ran one.  That means out of 3 games you've
> played, only 1 could have people running afk kill scripts.  I've
> played 5 league games and have never seen an afk kill script run.  So
> out of a total of 8 games, there is only one where it was possible
> that one was being run.  I would hardly call 1/8 "full of afk kill
> scripts."
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