Rod, at 08:53 on Jun 06 1995, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

BG> Sure, that's basically what I'm suggesting anyway.

RS> Nope, you were making a comment about 'loss of face'.
RS> Thats not what 'loss of face' means.

BG> The stuff above about Vi Tran not wishing to shame herself
BG> and/or her family sure sounds like avoiding loss of face to me.

RS> Yes, but pity thats not actually whats the primary cause of the
RS> better results that asians get. What we happened to be discussing.

I currently have Robert asking the asian kids at his school their reasons
for wanting to do well, but given the suburb and the minimal number of
asians at his school, the answers may not be too representative.  I doubt
there are any hard stats on such a thing anyway.  I'll let you know in a
day or two. 

Regards, Bill
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