On 4/7/2017 7:58 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:51:00 -0400, rickman wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/2017 3:46 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:48:15 +0100, druck wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2017 14:06, James Harris wrote:
>>>>> On 06/04/2017 13:12, Daniel James wrote:
>>>>>> In article , James Harris wrote:
>>>>>>> OK. It's a pity Notepad doesn't handle LF-only endings. Would save
>>>>>>> the hassle. But Wordpad does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I heartily recommend Notepad++ for code editing on Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apart from all the other neat things it does, it handles CR/LR/CR+LF
>>>>>> endings, and can create an output file with any of those.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried Notepad++ years ago but couldn't get used to it. Can't
>>>>> remember why now.
>>>>
>>>> Time to give it another try then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Notepad is fine for me. Once line wrap is turned off, Notepad will
>>>>> allow you to jump to a line by number. That's all I really need other
>>>>> than basic editing.
>>>>
>>>> Well if you can be happy with Notepad, vi is overkill, ed on a
>>>> teletype would be the Linux equivalent.
>>>>
>>> MS used to have an equivalent - remember edlin?
>>
>> Yes, and I also remember entering hex on a keypad.  I don't think I've
>> ever toggled a bootloader in using toggle switches though.  I'm not
>> *that* old!
>
> I've done that on an ICL mainframe.
>
> Our operators could toggle the bootloader in from memory on the 1902 I
> first used - it was meant to be loaded by the system pulsing a wire
> threaded through the ferrite cores when the CPU was switched on but this
> failed from time to time. Cue toggling it in.
>
> Somewhat later, our 1903S had a uniselector added on. This was a single
> channel serial port that could drive an ASR33 teletype (remember those?)
> but the Executive module that drove it was wrong, so I got to toggle in
> corrections each time I used it until it was replaced with a scanner,
> which did the same job but handled higher baud rates over several serial
> connections and was supported by George 3, the ICL 1900 multi-user,
> multitasking OS.
>
> Imagine that: 4 ASR33 terminals and a a remote job entry device with card
> reader and printer, all run by a mainframe with 32Kwords (96KB
> equivalent) of ferrite core memory, 0.3 MHz clock speed, two 60MB disk
> drives and eight tape decks. Tell that to the young folk these days and
> they'll never believe you!

I have a board sitting right here with an MSP430FR4133 that has 15 kB of
FRAM on board and other members of the family have up to 128 kB of FRAM
along with a lot of other "stuff", all running at up to 8 MHz with no
wait states.  Pretty amazing how far technology advances with time.  If
I had any ASR33 terminals I would connect it all up!  Instead I think
I'll connect it to a one square inch solar cell and run it with no
external power and no battery.  ;)

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Rick C

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