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echo: all-politics
to: Lee Lofaso
from: Gerhard Strangar
date: 2019-07-22 07:47:00
subject: War or Planefuls of

Am 22 Jul 19  06:50:13 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema 


>>Currently every pipeline being used is either using Belarus or the 
>>Ukraine  for transit.
LL> Both Belarus and Ukraine border Russia.  Where is the problem?

There's no wall between them. :-)

>>The Ukraine usually is "a bit behind schedule" when it comes to paying 
>>gas  bills, so Russia is looking for a way of prividing gas to the ones 
>>who pay,  but not to the Ukraine, which means it needs a new pipeline.
LL> Why not just shut off the flow of natural gas to Ukraine?  Wouldn't
LL> that be the easiest way to collect on delinquint accounts?  No need
LL> to build a new pipeline ...

Not selling the natural gas anymore isn't very business-minded. If your 
bordering countries can't pay, you sell it to someone who can.

>>Because whenever they shut the pipeline to the Ukraine down, the EU got
>> their gas from somewhere else.
LL> I do not believe Ukrainians like to freeze in wintertime.

Do you believe Venezuelans or North Koreans like starving?

LL> it comes from.  If Ukraine was not reliable, as Russia suggests,
LL> then others most certainly would have noticed.

Others do have noticed. The Ukraine has to pay 7.75% interest for their bonds, 
Germany is currently issuing bonds at 0% interest rate.

LL> Crimea as part of Russia.  As a result, the US and EU imposed
LL> sanctions on Russia.  These sanctions have cost Russia over
LL> $50 billion since then.  In order to make up for the loss of
LL> revenue, Russia has to find new sources.

In 2017 Trump invaded the White house and imposed sanctions on the USA, calling 
them tariffs. Do you think the people like paying more for what they buy while 
at the same time getting less for what they sell?

LL> England knew full well what it was/is doing.

Yeah, sure. They're discussing a second referendum despite the fact that 
everyone knew what they were voting for and would cast exactly the same vote 
again. This totally makes sense, doesn't it?

LL> In Kosovo, Europeans did nothing to stop ethnic cleansing by Serbia.
LL> The US had to act alone.  This should have been a European problem
LL> to solve.  Which it chose to ignore.

Actually, this is a problem of the United Nations and they did not vote for a 
military intervention, which is what all the criticism about this NATO 
operation is about.




Tschoe mit Oe
Gerhard
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