BG> Sure, that's basically what I'm suggesting anyway.

RS> Nope, you were making a comment about 'loss of face'.
RS> Thats not what 'loss of face' means.

BG> The stuff above about Vi Tran not wishing to shame herself and/or her
BG> family sure sounds like avoiding loss of face to me.

RS> Yes, but pity thats not actually whats the primary cause of the
RS> better results that asians get. What we happened to be discussing.

BG> I currently have Robert asking the asian kids at
BG> his school their reasons for wanting to do well,

I'm not convinced that thats a viable way to find out.

I have made a gentle hobby of asking migrants why they migrated, and
various people why they chose what they chose to do after they left
school. Its quite remarkable how few really can give you much useful.
They dont actually appear to know themselves, and thats adults.

I bet if you ask Robert himself why he get such
shitty school results he cant really tell you why.

BG> but given the suburb and the minimal number of asians at
BG> his school, the answers may not be too representative.

I'm not convinced it would be useful even if half the school were asians.

BG> I doubt there are any hard stats on such a thing anyway.

There are actually.

BG> I'll let you know in a day or two.

Dont think it will help much.

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