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echo: educator
to: MICHAEL MARTINEZ
from: PAUL SAYAN
date: 1996-08-07 10:53:00
subject: Re: Ivan Illich

 
MM> SK> There are certain students who do not do well in the ed system as it
MM> SK> is designed. I think that what this then calls for, is a reform for
MM> SK> these students so that they can learn better.
 
MM>Reform?  I think what is boils down to is, why do you believe in
MM>compulsory education and forcing your (or other people's) ideas in
MM>reforming someone?
 
        How about installing the ability to think?  You believe people
come with that ability?  I would trade my education for anything in the
world.  It's one of the things that protects me from those who wish to
take advantage.
 
MM> SK> I also am glad that there are certifications for such persons as
MM> SK> doctors, teachers, pilots, and so on. I think your idea that we 
hould
MM> SK> do away with these things is, well sorry if this sounds a bit harsh,
MM> SK> but...ridiculous. I want to be protected from quacks.
 
MM>You will still have protection from  quacks without any certification
MM>system.  I explained how this happens.  Word-of-mouth, direct observation
MM>of how someone's performance, selection of the fittest.
 
     What is your neighbor's qualification in judging such
occupations?
 
MM> SK> Do you really think that the drop-out rate is that high? I understand
MM> SK> that for most schools it is below 10%.
 
MM>What really is the difference between dropping out and ending your 
education
MM>with a high school diploma?  Is it that much of a difference?
 
        College, trade school, military, other
        possibilities....income..hmmmm
 
MM>Probably.  A truly content person is also blind.
 
        Which philosopher taught you this?  I feel that I am truly
content and I see quite well.  I'm content with what I have and what I
don't have.  I'm content in my conflicts and rewards.  I'm content that
I have to die and pay taxes.  What didn't I cover?
 
Keep your stick on the Ice,
Paul
 
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