Bob Klahn -> Ross Cassell wrote:

 RC>> First off, are you defending Obama because of your wifes
 RC>> race or your self-annointed position of being the great
 RC>> white apologist for all the bad things that minorities had
 RC>> gone through?

 BK>  First off, are you asking that to divert from your racism, or
 BK>  your self-annointed position of being the great white advocate
 BK>  for all the bad things whites want to do to minorities?

 BK>  You really can phrase your questions stupidly.

 BK>  First off, my wife supported Hillary until recently. I have been
 BK>  supporting Obama a lot longer.

 BK>  Secondly, if you are not "correcting" your fellow white ******
 BK>  when they speak ill of black people as a group, that is your
 BK>  failure.

 BK>  Most importantly, why in the world do you think minorities need
 BK>  an apologist *for all the bad things that minorities had gone
 BK>  through*?

 BK>>>>>  He sounds like that? He outright denounced what
Wright said, is
 BK>>>>>  that distancing?

 RC>>>> and yet has not left that Church.

 BK>>>  You have maybe half a dozen sermons, cut and pasted so you can't
 BK>>>  tell what is what. There are two that are actually filled with
 BK>>>  hostility, and one of them he echos what Jerry Falwell and Pat
 BK>>>  Robertson said just after 9-11. The other he recites a
 BK>>>  legitimate litany of injustice against blacks that explains his
 BK>>>  hostility, no matter how much you may disagree.

 RC>> Two wrongs dont make a wRight.

 BK>  Which "wrong" are you talking about? You mean reaching a
 BK>  conclusion you don't agree with? Falwell and Robertson said the
 BK>  US deserved 9-11 because we are too tolerant of what they
 BK>  consider sinful behavior. IOW, they think the US govt should
 BK>  enforce God's will.

 BK>  Wright said the evil we have done in the world came back on us.
 BK>  Are you arguing the US had never done any evil in the world?
 BK>  That the US has not done evil in recent times?

 RC>>>> Initially said he wasnt present when Wright gave them hate
 RC>>>> filled speeches, then says he was.. WTF, he was for Wright
 RC>>>> before he was against him?

 BK>>>  If he said that, it would be interesting. Yet are they hate
 BK>>>  filled? Was it hate filled when Falwell and Robertson said it?
 BK>>>  And was he in church when Wright said those things? Or was he
 BK>>>  just in church when Wright said *SOME* controversial things?

 RC>> Like the white man created Aids?

 BK>  That is a widely held error. How does that become hate filled.
 BK>  Oh, and he blamed the government, didn't he?

 BK>>>  BTW, where did Wright say anything racist about you? Where did
 BK>>>  he say anything racist about any white working class person?
 BK>>>  Where did he say anything racist about any white person? He did
 BK>>>  say rich white people run this country. That isn't totally
 BK>>>  wrong.

 RC>> So its ok to be racist against white people with money?

 BK>  Is it racist to say white people with money are doing bad
 BK>  things? Esp if it's true? Since the overwhelming majority of the
 BK>  extremely rich in this country are white, who else would be
 BK>  relevant? Are there any non-whites among the super-rich in this
 BK>  country? Maybe Oprah, but I'm not even sure of her.

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