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to: mike
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2007-03-16 19:07:00
subject: Re: Apple May Use Flash Memory For Notebooks

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

I wonder if the 228 years MTBF is calculated when the device is idle? 

You do have a good point that a rewrite-erase cycle MTBF would be of more
value. Although if they hallucinate that   like the 2 million hours .....


"mike"  wrote in message
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>
> One thing I am noticing is that the MTBF for these drives is always
> mentioned in hours, not read/write cycles.
>
>  /m
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:10:13 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>  wrote:
>
>>Prices appear to be coming down. SanDisk has a 32 GB drive -
>>unfortunately
>>OEM only - no retail
>>
>>http://www.hardmac.com/news/2007-03-14/#6529
>>
>>New Flash Memory-Based HD from SanDisk
>>
>>This HD features 32GB storage capacity with a SATA interface.
>>Its MTBF is evaluated to 2 millions hours, and data transfer speed are
>>67MB/s in reading and 45MB/s in writing mode, with an access time of 0.11
>>ms
>>in other words 100 times faster than a plate-based HD.
>>In addition, power consumption of this flash memory-based HD is 50% lower
>>than a 2.5" HD during reading/writing session, as it does not require
>>power
>>when it is idle.
>>
>>The last good news is its price, as it will be offer to OEM at US$350; so
>>far there is no plan for a retailed version.
>>
>>So the perfect storage unit for the rumored Apple subnotebook? if it is
>>powered by MacOSX Leopard Mobile, it would give users around 27GB for
>>storing data and appl
>>
>>"mike"  wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> Intel is throwing their hat into the ring, meaning that the market for
>>> this stuff is about to explode (IMO).
>>>
>>>
http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2007/15/z-u130-nand-flash-memory-based-va
lue-solid-state-drive-unveiled-by-intel/
>>>
>>>
>>>  /m
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:01:53 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>Samsung's UMPC entry the Q1P SSD with 32GB of SSD (solid-state NAND)
>>>>flash
>>>>memory is double the price of their UMPC Q1 with a conventional drive
>>>>and
>>>>Samsung is one of the largest makers of NAND.  Right now I think
>>>>Microsoft
>>>>/Vista has the correct approach with ReadyBoost and flash.
>>>>
>>>>Of course if NAND prices ever plummet ..........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"mike"  wrote in message
>>>>news:avi8v2p23audefsihfkgol1h684658441p{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:56:55 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hopefully they'll use an exceptional algorithm to
access the NAND
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> /m
>>>>
>>

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