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echo: holysmoke
to: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
from: ROSS SAUER
date: 2004-12-21 16:40:00
subject: Calling all angels

WAYNE CHIRNSIDE said to ROSS SAUER,


WC>-> GD> SA> The minor little mutations that happen every day may one
WC>-> GD> SA> day either save or kill (or both as in sickle cell). 
WC>-> GD> SA> Does he really not understand the "survival of the
WC>-> GD> SA> fittest" concept? 

WC>-> GD>I think the problem lies in "the fittest".  It has been 
WC>-> GD>anthropomorphized.  And, some groups have used the
"ideals" as 
WC>-> GD>a means of control.  

WC>-> Exactly, that's why I prefer "best adapted."

WC>I think of it as everything that doesn't work dies
WC>in a dead end.
WC>Biological mutations that are advantagous live on and allow
WC>further mutation some of which dead and and others which succeed.

Bingo.

WC>-> I was arguing with an adherent of "intelligent
design," and asked
WC>-> this  person if an "intelligent designer" would have
been such a
WC>-> total fuckup  with the Dodo bird.

WC>-> His response, "The Dodo bird is a story, they never existed." 

WC>Heh, didn't they exist until the early to mid 1900's?

Never can tell with a fundy.

WC>-> I simply gave up and left the chatroom, it's impossible to get
WC>-> through  cement heads like those.

WC>For a fact.

Just look at "David Raglund" here.

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