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echo: moscow_oklahoma
to: Ilya Kuznetsoff
from: Carol Shenkenberger
date: 2003-06-24 17:43:40
subject: Re: OFFICIAL NOTICE!!!

*** Quoting Ilya Kuznetsoff from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

IK> Hello Carol!

IK> 21 Jun 03 12:30, you wrote to Alex Polevoy:

 CS> It varies though across Russia.  Anatoli for example comes from an
 CS> area where surnames have only been in fashion for the past 2
 CS> generations at best.  Thats why he has 2 'last names'.  One from the
 CS> area he comes from, and one from a respected elder.  I forget which is
 CS> which but they are Gulidov and Tung and he uses them somewhat
 CS> interchangably according to some cultural rules his area follows.

IK>   The  2  last names (surnames)  is used when the married  man or woma
IK> don't want to  change  their surnames,  so then both of them will use
IK> surnames.    As   example,    "Novikova"   and  
"Priboy"   will   use
IK> man --"Novikov-Priboy",  woman
"Novikova-Priboy".  And  it  comes  wit
IK> their own first and middle names,  ex. "Anna  Ivanovna Novikova-Priboy

Yes, but Anatoli's case is different.  His area lacked the concept of
¨'surnames' and they were possibly forced on them.  He's indicated that
it's a ¨bit debatable on which touse for him but he does have one he uses
for 'official ¨stuff' like passports.  I gather, he just 'picked one' at
that point.

Not all Russia is Moscow or even eastern.  He's at the border to asia along
the ¨pacific coast.  Different traditions.
                                       xxcarol

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