Hi mark!

Sorry ... was busy.
We received a VERY nice present for our clubstation OE1XAW.
Nice rack + additional Servers.

https://odroid.ricsi.priv.at/oe1xaw.jpg

We have consolidated everything into the rack yesterday.

Just need some more ideas of what to do with the servers.
2 operational. 3 not yet used ;)
(3 not yet used ones are less powerfull dual Xeon 3GHz and 2x single P4 2.8GHz)

One of them has 22 GB of RAM ;)))
The other has 6 TB HDD space.

Currently runnung there:
OE1XTW Tetra Repeater
SVXLink Echolink connection for above.
APRS Digipeater
HAMNet Router
SIP Server + Phones for HAMNet
3g FemtoCell
ShinySDR for shortwave and higher frequencies (1 RTLSDR with direct
sampling, second normal one)
2 Internet Connections (VDSL and Satellite + dual HAMNet links)
UPS

On the table beside it is the actual Clubstation 2 Yaesu shortwave
transceivers and transceiver for 2m/70 cm.
2 PACTOR modems for emergency communication over shortwave.


18 Jan 2016 19:50, from mark lewis -> Richard Menedetter:

 RM>>>> I am for example talking about D-Star/DMR/Fusion.

 ml> the ""problem"" such as it is comes when
non-radio is involved...
 ml> you won't be able to reach those folks on the other side of the IP
 ml> connection when the internet is down over there...

So what?!?
People are not reachable over SW if the LUF/MUF are not favorable and the
ionospheric conditions are not OK.

I do not see the problem, just try a different means of communication or
wait until the IP connection comes up.

Or do it like we do, have a UPS backed satelite IP link ;)
(Got it donated + running costs are also covered!)

I really do not understand the argument "I will not use it because of
the faint chance the Internet could be unreachable".
For me tha HAM hobby is about communication and technical experimentation.
By all available channels!

 ml> this is like all the new-fangled VOIP cr4p that everyone is jumping
 ml> on... how can you call your provider when the internet is down??

Mobile??

Here in austria you usually still get a POTS line in addition to your IP access.
Only two people I know have actually a phone connected there.
The others do not bother any more!

 ml> same difference... if all your supposedly ham radio contacts are on
 ml> the other side of an IP connection, them you're s#ite out of luck...
 ml> in a real emergency, that can cost lives...

Why??
I still have SW, FM, PACTOR, Tetra, ...

Just one redundant way of communication broke away!

 RM>>>> 3) HT  repeater 1  IP 
repeater 2  HT all over
 RM>>>> radio except the IP link between the 2 repeaters. Those two
 RM>>>> repeaters can be seperated by thousands of kilometers or
 RM>>>> whatever non-SI units you like.
 HG>>> This is where our opinions differ.
 RM>> Indeed ;)
 RM>> But some people here claim that there are no differing oppinions
 RM>> ;))
 ml> you have to know those folks and where they are coming from...
 ml> you're pretty new here in this echo

Indeed you are right.
Taken a 10 year absence (or so) from Fidonet.
Before that I did not have my callsign, which I only made less than a year ago.

 ml> and some folks have very strigent ideas about what the HAM hobby is
 ml> all about...

So do I.
My ideas are VERY broad, especially since I come from a computer science background.

I would have no problem whatsoever if they would say:
"For /me/ that is not HAM"
or
"This does not fit /my/ definition of the HAM hobby"

 ml> it isn't just about making contacts... it is more about being able to
 ml> communicate when other modes are no longer available...

Interesting, because this is also part of the HAM mix here.
But only with a usually lower priority (like earth-moon-earth
transmissions, which are also part of the HAM hobby, but kinda exotic)

OE1XAW is actually a little exception, as it is part of the austrian
emergency network.

 HG>>> As soon as you involve an IP link, or any other transport other
 HG>>> than radio waves, it ceases to be ham radio
 RM>> For me it is HAM if it is related to my radio hobby.
 RM>> Including the above usecase and also for example Echolink (at
 RM>> least when there is at least one real radio repeater involved ;)
 ml> radio wave comms are the last bastion... the one that can save lives
 ml> and keep disparate groups connected when the worst comes... think
 ml> climate change and whole earth icing...

We over here are not so fixated on that aspect.
I personally also look a bit strangely at the "Prepper" movement
over there.

The definition over here is simply a technical and experimental radio
service, with the emphasis on trying out different communications modes,
and heavily focusing on the technical aspects.

For example Software Defined Radio (SDR) is a very hot topic over here.
Sadly the SW transceivers are still damed expensive (one club member bought
one, but it is outside of my financial scope at the moment ;)

 RM>> Live and let live.
 RM>> We have different viewpoints - so what ;))
 ml> that's a huge "what" when it comes down to being able to contact
 ml> others or not...

There seems to be a huge cultureal difference here.
For me it is not about mainly communicating when the zombies attack, but
simply "playing" with the technologies and learning different
aspects of the HAM hobby.

Meaning trying many different things.
WHISPER comes to mind ... did not play with that YET ;)

 RM>> As we speak about that - I assume that the DV4Mini is seen as
 RM>> pure evil coming directly from hell ;)))
 ml> that url is broken all to hades... you should also use a url
 ml> shortening service when posting any urls longer than 75 characters...

here you are
http://tinyurl.com/znkrwxt

 ml> )\/(ark

CU, Ricsi

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