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only way to be able to make decisions for yourself is to fuck some up.

Part of the reason they eventually get to notice that they dont
actually know everything is the stuff they fuck up. There aint
no other way for most of them.

Sometimes their are so damned obnoxious they basically get chucked
out when the parents cant stand them any longer. Thats also a very
fundamental part of how humans have evolved. You wont be changing
that stuff just by howling about it.

FM> Perceived irrelevance (Rod's argument).

BG> Despite typically knowing absolutely everything at age 15, I still
BG> doubt they're old enough to make an informed opinion either way myself.

RS> You've missed the 'perceived' bit. THEY see it as irrelevant.
RS> Thats a completely seperate question to whether it is irrelevant.
RS> Yes, they certainly arent old enough to make an informed opinion
RS> either way, but they make an opinion anyway. Everyone does.

BG> Oh well, at least I can be thankful that you didn't start going on
BG> about the "pressures of modern society", and all that psychological
BG> bullshit.

Sure, I dont think thats changed much at all. In the old days the
worst of them used to run away to sea and stuff. The detail has
changed, but thats about it. Its been going on for millennia.

RS> And they are right too on spelling anyway |-)

BG> Nope, and you'll never convince me otherwise.

I cant help your closed mind Bill |-)

BG> Mind you, given the amount of TV being watched by kids these
BG> days, some of the grammatical blunders made by news copywriters
BG> (and compounded by their readers) are disgusting (as my hero,
BG> Stuart Littlemore, so frequently and pungently points out).

FM> And pompously.

RS> Yeah, I agree with Frank, particularly on the political correctness
RS> stuff, he really does go completely over the top on that stuff.

BG> Sure, no argument with that at all, but he still does it so well.  |-)

RS> I value the bits where he shows up the media for blatant
RS> dishonesty and straight out fraud, but so much of its
RS> just Stew holding his nose about irrelevant crap.

BG> Sure, but he's a public figure, and has a bigger ego to feed.
BG> I don't agree with everything that he says either, but I still
BG> respect his right to express that opinion, regardless.  And
BG> unlike most, he's far more often right than wrong anyway.

The think I like about it is imagining the rage
that those he is sledging must be experiencing |-)

RS> Ditto for his pontification that Aust doesnt
RS> need anything other than free to air TV.

BG> He's possibly right.  We don't NEED it at all.

I think he is being a dork on that bit. People
said the same thing about TV at one time too.

BG> The funny thing about pay TV is that its subscribers
BG> will be lining some rich cunts' pockets,

We'll see. It looks far more likely that for a very long time
it wont be lining anyones pockets, just a sink for their money.

BG> in order to watch the same stuff that they
BG> can see right now for free. Fuck 'em, I say.

Which is your choice, but Stew was basically
about that choice not being available to choose.

FM> He's not lily-white you know.

BG> No, but he's generally near enough IMO.

RS> What happened on that 7:30 Report segment that shafted him ?

BG> Dunno, I don't watch it much any more, ever since that red-headed
BG> wanker started fronting our local edition.  What a total fuckwit he is.

RS> I was on the phone at the time, just had the screen on, no
RS> sound, and didnt have a blank tape handy and so missed it.

BG> Damn, wish I'd seen it too.

RS> He certainly didnt look that thrilled at being shafted |-)

BG> Don't worry, he has a long memory, and will seize the moment...  :)

He has made a couple of snide remarks, but not a proper shafting yet |-)

RS> He also falls into the classic trap that all those language
RS> thought police do, confusing changing style with error.

BG> Of course, there's not the slightest possibility that he does
BG> actually have a point, is there?

On most of the wanking about the english language use, nope. Its just the
usual language thought police crap, missing the point utterly that the
language changes over time, whether the likes of Stew approve of it or not.

BG> I look upon the English language as a very powerful tool,

Which says sweet fuck all about whether the language is changing or not.

BG> and I don't normally abuse my tools (Bob, you stay right away from that!),
BG> and those who do so are simply showing their own pig-ignorance IMO.

Its a nice theory Bill, pity most of what he howls about aint actually
'abusing my tools', its just a living language changing. With some
stuffed shirts like Stew having a good old howl about it.

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