RS> Still mangling the story completely.

BG> Nope, approaching it a different POV perhaps, but not mangling it.

RS> Fraid so, you clearly know bugger all
RS> about whats involved with programming.

BG> Crap, I know that if I typo a BASIC function, it won't bloody
BG> work. I don't have to be a high-level programmer to know that.

Yes, but pity that says SFA about whether someone who has a problem with
good spelling in english prose will find that a problem for programming.
Basically, what causes less than the best spelling has no effect on being
able to program effectively, largely because the quirky rules in english
spelling arent seen with programming at all.

BG> Sure, that's basically what I'm suggesting anyway.

RS> Nope, you were making a comment about 'loss of face'.
RS> Thats not what 'loss of face' means.

BG> The stuff above about Vi Tran not wishing to shame herself
BG> and/or her family sure sounds like avoiding loss of face to me.

Yes, but pity thats not actually whats the primary cause of the
better results that asians get. What we happened to be discussing.

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