Replying to a message of TOM WALKER to BOB ACKLEY:

 JM>>>>> I do notice you did not come up with a creditable
source for the
 JM>>>>> quote attributed to Mr. Bush.

 JM>>>>> Why is that Bob?

 BA>>>> Because I thought everybody had seen the original posting months
 BA>>>> ago, which I believe came from an online publication called 'The
 BA>>>> Hill.' Bush minor's quote has been floating around since then.

 JM>>> Well it seem that you are simply wrong.

 BA>> In your opinion.

 TW> IF no evidence can be presented to Prove a Statements validity it is
 TW> no longer and Opinion but FACT by default.

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   From: JOHNJWILSON                         1:123/140       03 Jun 09  19:44:02
     To: JOHN MASSEY                                         04 Jun 10  03:09:18
   Subj: Unfathomable                                                           
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->  ->> If you accept the Bush quote as real then you should accept the BO
->  J> quote.
-> 
->  J> Uh, no. The Bush quote has been bandied about for years.
-> 
-> Doesn't make it accurate or even real.

True.
-> 
->  J> ..the Obama 'quote'  is an obvious partisan attempt at defusement.
-> 
-> Nope, just an attempt to show that anyone that claims the Bush quote is
real,
-> is full of it.

:-)



-> Come on John,  You seem to want to step up to the plate. Be a hero to
the left...

I have no desire to be a hero. Being an apologist is hard enough. :-)


,
-> be the first to provide a credible source for the Bush quote. Name some
names.
-> Give a time and date.
-> 
->  J> In addition to which the Bush quote is fairly likely, the Obama one
is not.
-> 
-> The Obama "quote" is just as likely as the Bush quote.

I think you are quite mistaken.

(From Google._ Search "Constitution Goddamned")
"

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet 
with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA 
Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period
immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that
liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces
with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose
renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous
provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the
President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet
Miers to the Supreme Court.

oI donAet give a goddamn,oe Bush retorted. oIAem the President and the
Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.oe

oMr. President,oe one aide in the meeting said. oThere is a valid case that
the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.oe

oStop throwing the Constitution in my face,oe Bush screamed back. oItAes just
a goddamned piece of paper!oe

IAeve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all
confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution oa
goddamned piece of paper.

A ton other other stuff as usual on Google I just picked the first I saw.

I up my 35% to about 60%...as it being likely.

Hell, I have the 'audacity to hope'- you have the option of doubt...

Onward!



















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