Hello The!

Tuesday January 01 2019 19:28, you wrote to Tauno Voipio:

 >> You are mistaken. Please go to the nearest airport with
 >> commercial flight operations and look at the attitude
 >> of an airplane at the touchdown moment. It will be about
 >> 5 degrees nose up.
 >>

 > Ypu are mistaken,  Please go to the nearest airport with
 > commercial flight operations and look at the *glide angle*
 > of an airplane at the touchdown moment. It will be about
 > 1 degree or less.


The angle used depends on the aircraft but generally it is between 1 - 2.5
degrees (up) for heavy twin and above and 2 - 5 degrees for single and light
twins allthough most of the light twins I flew were happy with 2 - 2.5.

These numbers are for 'light' xwinds but in any event well below the max xwind
limits.  If that was not possible i.e., strong winds with a good xwind
component the solution as in many was the use of liberal power and/or power
gradient depending on a/c type and LW.

But hey that the way I fly  and so far have never had a hard or uncontrolled
handing - at least since stopped flying C150/152/172 types).

but there are other techniques for those if needed.


As an example flying in to Luton many years back as a gagle of a/c from a
flying club using mostly Cessnas and my PA28-140 we found that the xwind was
strong and outside limits for the high wings by a lot.

The piper was also out of limits but I had to get some pilot shirts and a
replacement cap so really did want to get in.

I approached and landed using the starting right edge and the left short mid
point of the runway with power and full flaps (which I would not have normally
used for 30kts wind) and touched down and stopped in under a 100 yards - well
under.
Now the taxi-in was a little more tricky.

IT did have my attention though.


 > The attitude of the plane has nothing to do with it. The space shuttle
 > glies like a brick with a huge angle of incidence.

 > Myy poiit is that you do not 'stall' a plane onto the ground. Not
 > since tiger moths and WWI biplanes.

 > You *fly* it in with airspeed well over stall.


Correct and even tail dragers do not need to be stalled on but again good 
usage
of power and flaps (if available) or even a side slide approach bet there 
again
I have been know to use it on many other types - just depend on the
circumstances lick much of flying.

Old flyer.


Vince

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