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to: ALAN IANSON
from: Mike Powell
date: 2024-12-31 10:31:00
subject: Democratic Failure

>  > There is no comparison between these two incidents.

>  MP> There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get a
>  MP> conviction after letting Biden off.

> A conviction? There was never going to be a conviction or even a trial. There
> was no crime.

A conviction of Trump.  They don't teach you much about context up in BC,
do they?  There is enough of a comparison that letting Biden off for
improperly storing classified documents in his home will make it very
difficult to convict Trump for also keeping classified documents improperly
stored in his home.

And there was indeed a crime, in *both* cases.  If Biden or Trump were just
about anyone else besides a politician, keeping classified documents in the
manner that they did would have landed them in jail and/or heavily fined.

Having worked with classified data most of my life, I know this.  In my
state, you are not only covered by federal laws that promise jail time and
fines, but there are also state level laws for mishandling classified federal
documents and data that also carry jail time and fines.

They might be able to get Trump with some charge for not returning them,
but it won't be the grand conviction you are hoping for.

>  MP> They need to concentrate on other charges that have plenty of evidence
>  MP> and that are not ones they just let someone else off for.

> There is no crime or evidence of any crime.

As we are talking about *Trump*, I am shocked to hear you say that but, then
again, not too surprised as you are pretty dense.

If you have not recently read the echo rules, there is a new one asking you
to *please* not drunk post here.

>  MP> You are correct though it does not compare as Biden's pardon of Biden
>  MP> extends to yet to be determined crimes over a rather large time frame.

> What crimes? Hunter is not the criminal you seem to think he is.

Hunter was convicted of crimes.  Joe has pardoned him of not only those
crimes, but of all possible crimes during a wide time frame.  So I am not
the one who is imagining any Hunter crimes.  Joe Biden is.

>  MP> In other words, it is a get out of jail free card for anything done
>  MP> during that time that might later come to light, and it is likely the
>  MP> largest "blanket pardon" in history.

> Nope, Hunters pardon is no such thing.

Yes, it is.  The last time anyone was issues such a blanket pardon, it was
Richard Nixon.

If you google "hunter biden broad pardon" you will fine articles like this:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/02/hunter-biden-pardon-nixon-00192101

"'I have never seen language like this in a pardon document that purports to
pardon offenses that have not apparently even been charged, with the exception
of the Nixon pardon,' said Margaret Love, who served from 1990 to 1997 as the
U.S. pardon attorney, a Justice Department position devoted to assisting the
president on clemency issues.

"'*Even the broadest Trump pardons were specific as to what was being
pardoned*,' Love added."

If you don't like that source, there are also articles from ABC, the AP,
and NPR to choose from.

Aside from some MAGAs and some hard-core leftists, I have *never* met
anyone as intentionally woefully ignorant as you.


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