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to: JOSEPH LUNA
from: JAY P. HAILEY
date: 1997-07-15 07:30:00
subject: Re: Trek Trademarks

JL>   I do remember in 2061, Odyssey Three, mister Clark makes
JL>references to the Star Wars movies in one chapter where
JL>Doctor Floyd is exploring he inside of a comet.  That's the
JL>sort of fair use thing I suppose you could get away with.
JL>I don't remember offhand if there was some message in he
JL>book somewhere about using the reference with permission.
        The fair use provisions govern that. A.C.Clark was not writing
 as though Star Wars was "Real" he was writing as though it were a movie
 that his protagonist had seen many years before.
        Because Star Wars really was a movie, anyone even a fictional
 person can speak in fiction of having seen it, or mention that it
 exists.  Any sizable use of the plot or characters (Like having your PC
 tell us what happens in the movie) doesn't count, but to mention that
 it's there does.
JL>   That makes me wonder though, since I've never seen it.  Has any sci-fi
JL>story out there ever made references to Star Trek big or
JL>small?  Preferably maybe ones set in or near the same time
JL>period. :)
        I have never seen anything set in the far future mentioned as
 related to Star Trek, but in the Spider Robinson Book "LifeHouse" one
 of the PCs is repeatedly mentioned to bear a striking resemblance to
 Jean Luc Picard or "That Star Trek Guy".
        Actually that's not entirely true.  There used to be a series of
 coffee table books where cover art from various SF works was reproduced
 and a story was written to link them all together.  Pretty cheesy now
 that I think of it.  But I loved them them (This was the early 80's).
 On panel had the cover from a Ballantine Trek book (Don't know which
 one)
        It was said to describe a starship built to resemble the
 Enterprise as a monument to the SF that led to the glorious future.
        The exact picture in question was said to represent the moment
 when this working replica Enterprise was stolen by crazed fans.
        Go Figure...
Jay P. Hailey 
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