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Good article, for the most part. But I'm a bit at a loss to explain some of the math in it. WC> snakes and whales. Explain why God would have created over 250,000 WC> different species of beetle. Why did God create over 2,000 different WC> varieties of WC> fruit-fly (25% of which can only be found in Hawaii)? Why did God WC> create muscles that allow us to move our ears? What is our appendix WC> for? * WC> There are some 8,600 species of birds so far described and 3,700 WC> species of mammals. 20,000 species of fish are documented out of an WC> estimated 40,000 believed to exist. Known insect species number over WC> 850,000 and WC> this is estimated as being fewer that 1/5 or even 1/10 of the total WC> number in extant. The number of catalogued flowering plant species is WC> over 286,000 and about 4,000 more are catalogued every year. The WC> number of different species of fungi is in excess of 40,000. If you WC> add it all WC> up you get over 1.6 billion different forms of life on this planet. Hmm.. 8600+3700+20000+850000+286000+40000 = 1208300 known species (assuming the raw numbers from the article are correct and complete) If we account for the estimated unknowns (again, assuming the raw numbers in the article are good), we add 20000 fish species, and 7650000 insect species (using the 1/10 of the total extant number). That yields 8878300. Still not even remotely close to 1.6 billion. Maybe the author mistakenly double-counted the beetle and fruitfly numbers that he quotes (those would be included in the numbers for insect species, shouldn't they?). That would add 252000, yielding a total of 9130300. Still vastly smaller than 1.6 billion, but that's the biggest number I can come up with using the numbers that the author provides. Unless maybe he's projecting that 4000 new flowering plant species/yr out to some arbitrary time. But to get to 1.6 billion, you'd have to continue at that rate for 397717 years. Somehow, I don't think that's it. Maybe he meant to say 1.6 million. I see how to get that exact number out of his figures, but it does at least seem to be in the ball park. It's between the 1.2million known species number, and the 8.9million high-estimate number. Or maybe he's including some species that he hadn't previously mentioned. Like microbes, perhaps. He didn't give a number for those. If so, then he should have mentioned that. His total looks pretty ludicrous otherwise. WC> Since over 99% of all life forms that have ever existed are now WC> extinct we end up with a total species number of as high as 16 WC> billion. Huh? If 1.6 billion is 1% of the total, then the total would be 160 billion. WC> Please WC> explain why your creator went to all this effort only to give one WC> species any special favors. How did Noah manage to place at least 3.2 WC> billion different life forms on the ark? Where the heck did that number come from? Even if the 1.6 billion number was right, why assume that there were twice that many in Noah's time? It's still a good point, though. Even if there's only about a million species, the idea of getting them all aboard an ark remains totally absurd. Heck, even if you assume that fish, microbes, and insects didn't need Noah's help, it's still absurd. And you can't realistically exclude _all_ of those species. For example, I doubt that freshwater fish would do well in a worldwide flood with all that ocean water spilling out all over the place. Of course, it could have been highly diluted with freshwater, but then it would be the saltwater varieties who would be in trouble. I feel silly even speculating on the saltiness of the flood water. The whole flood idea is embarassingly stupid. WC> * Which of Noah's WC> children were black? Which were Korean, East Indian, Hispanic? Which WC> had blue eyes, green eyes, hazel eyes, brown eyes? Which were albino? WC> Which of Noah's children had brown hair, black hair, blonde hair? WC> Which of Noah's WC> children had syphilis, AIDS, gonorrhea, tuberculosis, polio, WC> smallpox? Which of Noah's children had congenital heart defects? Come WC> on, big mouths, put up or shut up. Lets see this creationism of yours WC> start explaining things. No one needs to defend evolution any more. WC> That hasn't needed to be been done for over 100 years. If you can't WC> get with WC> the program, get out of the game and relegate Creationism to where it WC> belongs, in classes on Religion, not Science. Only the irrational, WC> the intellectually impaired and the incredibly stupid can't see WC> that evolution theories such as theory of change by decent WC> through modification are the only demonstrable means of explaining WC> the wide diversity of life that we observe on this planet.This issue WC> makes the U.S.A. a laughingstock to the rest of the world and should WC> have been dead and buried decades ago. It makes me sick to have to WC> continue to fight this flood of ignorance in this day and time, but WC> hopefully truth WC> and science will prevail and mankind will one day throw off this yoke WC> of myth and superstition. A pretty good article, overall. But it would have been much better without the math errors. Or, if the totals are correct, it would have been much better if the author had provided better support for them so that they don't look so much like errors. * SeM. 2.26 * A day for firm decisions!!!!! 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