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echo: aviation
to: JIM DAWSON
from: RICHARD BRICE
date: 1997-07-08 20:16:00
subject: CRASH REPORT

Yes,  the Portland accident was uncalled for.  The deadheading Captain on the 
jump seat was also a DC-8 Captain and about to retire.  He kept telling the 
Captain (along with the 2nd/O) they were about out of fuel,  but to no avail.
This dead heading Captain was Duke Garrett,  I'll never forget him either. 
When he was on the DC-7 he took me off the runway twice in a row with an 
engine cut after V-1.  I was the observor and Ed Cullerton was the Check 
Airman.  We were using 8-R and about opposite of Stanley Aviation Ed cut No. 
1 and Garrett didn't catch it in time and neither did Cullerton.  Ed jerked 
it in the air and we went around and landed and tried it again.  Same thing 
happened on the second try.
After a Guy fails to do it right on the first try and then gets a second shot 
at it after discussion,  you would think he would be ready for it.
As you know,  this maneuver has always been a sore spot with me.
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