Hello there, Ivy.
 II> JS> The "weather balloon" story was used to cover up the "Project Mogul"
 II> JS> test balloons which was later said to include test dummies and that
 II> JS> it was part of a secret project to test for radiation from possible
 II> JS> Russian Atomic bomb tests.
 II> What could they learn about radiation from dummies that they couldn't
 II> learn from photographic film in light-tight containers, with or
 II> without some degree of radiation shielding? Sorry, that doesn't wash.
 I am not sure how they relate the test dummies to project Mogul.  Mogul was 
a pure surveillance platform.  I can understand them drop test dummy near 
nuclear denotation, to test whether an entire paratrooper battional would be 
wiped out.  However, there is no logical need for test dummies in Project 
Mogul.  Anyhow, in was a pretty pathetic attempt considering how vastly wrong 
they got their dates.  They has lied so many times now, even if they said it 
was a crash disc, I doubt the population would believe them. 
 II> and now. I will also mention that they have produced anti-gravity
 II> in the lab in the past year or two - using two different methods!
 II> One involves spinning a superconductive disk in a strong magnetic
 II> field, which produced a "column" of reduced gravity over it. The
 II> other is produced using only a very powerful magnetic field. Just
 II> this evening I watched a documentary on the Discovery channel
 II> which featured the latter. They showed a die, (half a pair of dice),
 II> a living cockroach and a live frog suspended in free space. The
 II> creatures apparently suffered no negative effects from their
 II> short-term weightlessness.  The one thing which both of these have
 II> in common is magnetism.  _IF_ there are UFOs, and IF they can do the
 II> things which have been reported by countless witnesses, plus the
 II> fact that electrical equipment, (lights, radios, automotive
 II> engines, etc), have been reported to stop operatin when a UFO is in
 II> the area, plus the reported spinning of compasses, I believe it is
 II> logical to assume that the UFO's, (whatever their source), utilizes
 II> very powerful magnetic fields as part of their levitation/propulsion
 II> systems.
 Yes, to different effect however.  The first which the spinning ceramic in a 
B field, was said to have weaken the actual gravitation field by something 
like 2%.  The second experiment, with the suspended frogs, never weaken the 
gravitational field but countered it with a electromagnetic field.  I have 
never seen at real anti-gravity experiment appear from the first you stated 
done somewhere in northern europe.  However, even here, there has been little 
to follow from it.
       Having said this, its not the difficult to think up of propulsion 
methods with display the increadible characteristics associated with U.F.O 
sightings.  Its completely possible and within the realm of physics.  I would 
tend to agree with you that it would be electromagnetic in nature. 
 II> Doesn't prove a thing.  Do you actually think the CIA - the head of
 II> GJO> 1) The Central Intelligence Agency discussed this hypothesis with
 II> GJO> people with the highest positions in government and none supported
 II> GJO> evidence  for a ultra secret R&D program.
 II> Doesn't prove a thing.  Do you actually think the CIA - the head of
 II> the American trenchcoat society - would ADMIT that such a project
 II> exists?
 You've got this out of context, Ivy.  This documents was written in 1952, 
and classified either secret or top secret...so it would reflect a honest 
judgement.  However, you can never be sure if the Central Intelligence Agency 
(in even hinted at if uncertainty), knew about all the U.F.O research. 
Supposedly Majestic-12 began in sep 1947...the clearance level here was the 
highest in the country (if we trust the documents). 
 II> GJO> 2) Earlier the USAF, gave instructions to intercept (but not shot
 II> GJO> down) these flying discs (without any interference from some other
 II> GJO> organisation)
 II> Uh huh... Why is it that jet fighters can't seem to get close to
 II> them, and when they do, they usually have some kind of major
 II> malfunction, causing a crash? I have heard a recording, (transcript?)
 II> of the last transmission made by the lead pilot in the infamous
 II> Flight 19: Something like "It's HUGE!... Don't come after me," He
I have heard the same types of encounters (from the top of my hands, the 
voice records of a now presumed dead lightplane pilot, and the Iran sighting 
by their imperial airforce).  They can not be dismissed so easily by 
Professional debunkers.
 II> GJO> 3) It was well documented that these object moved dangerously
through  II> GJO> well established airlanes.
 II> Would our military fly dangerously into commercial air lanes?
 No, of course not.  These point were from a 1952 Central Intelligence Agency 
report testing the hypothesis whether these objects were manned made...the 
unstated conclusion was no.  Thus, that leaves natural phenomena, which can 
be easily discredited by the flying maneuvers these object perform.  I can 
not understand how the typical skeptic, remains so content, when these issues 
are far far from resolved.
       Have youself a good day...
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