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to: IB JOE
from: Mike Powell
date: 2024-11-21 09:58:00
subject: Re: The awesome new cabin

>  MP> He was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
>  MP> Even if that case is under appeal, he is a felon until if/when it
>  MP> is appealed.

> Trump is a felon after the judge renders the conviction.  Until then... He's
> not.  The judge is playing with the conviction because this is all a
olitical
> game.

I think you might be confusing the sentence with the conviction.  Trump has
been convicted of a felony.  Whether he is sentenced to community service or
jail doesn't alter the felony status of the conviction.

> Alan Dershowitz, and many other Constitutional Scholars say that there are
> sooooooooo many reversible errors that the case will get tossed eventually...
> On appeal.  Moreover, there is a bunch of evidence that should not have been
> presented in the case be cause, as per the Supreme Court, Trump had immunity

> some of the evidence.

> Alan Dershowitz, et al., said NY law says that the Judge has to sentence
ithi
> 1 year of Jury conviction... So he can't wait until 2029.  And there is a way
> to tackle the case if the judge tries to postpone it until 2029.

Yeah, I think that is probably part of the "right to a fair trial"
protection.  It would prevent NY from holding someone indefinately without
finally sentencing them.

>  MP> In this case, he seems to be talking about the conviction from earlier
>  MP> this year and, for once, seems to have knowledge of what he is talking
>  MP> about.

> He used the word felon wasn't talking about conviction.

I have seen Alan use both, and both are true.  Trump was convicted of a
felony.  He has yet to be sentenced but, until/unless the case is appealed
and/or tossed, he is currently convicted of a felony and is therefore a felon.


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