Hello TOm,

On Sat 2036-Dec-27 19:09, Thom LaCosta (1:261/1352) wrote to Richard Webb:

TL> You might want to make a post about familynet in the othernets
TL> echo...Bob posts there.
 RW> tHink I carried that one for awhile, might again.

TL> There is no traffic other than sporadic announcements.....

that's why I never did.  I regularly connect with another
system that *is a member, so could derive a feed from him
for those things which would be of interest to myself and my small user
base.  I know a lot of those echoes are gated
newsgroup content, hoepfully with the noise and spam from
China filtered .  But, I figure if they're not interested enough
to answer queries from interested potential members
maybe the filtration ain't that great either.  Hence, I"ll
look at the newsgroups that actually originate the content
I"d like to get for the system from fn and use the old
filter between the ears to take care of the junk.  Example,
when the big push to pre-season starts I"ll look at a couple of
baseball newsgroups for a few days.  IF there's relevant
traffic, stayed tuned in, maybe even de-lurk.  IF not,
byebye .

 RW> NOw as soon as echolist updates come in, we unzip 'em,
 RW> remove any line with the name "hoffman" in it, as they're
 RW> just wasted space and time.  

TL> Well, it we applied the logic of wasted space and time across the
TL> board, we could eliminate many echoes, most of the admin addresses
TL> in Fodonet, and a large number of the node listings (g).....but
TL> that. like your statment, is simply a matter of opinion.

 RW> AGreed.  WE spend enough time on 14300 just saying hi to
 RW> folks, letting folks make their skeds to move off frequency
 RW> and chatter, but when the stuff really hits, we're there,
 RW> with folks who know how to get the job done .

TL> There is a difference....with ham radio we are "suppossed" to
TL> perform public service(although many folks don't)...where as in
TL> Fidonet there is no charge to do anything that's helpful...it is
TL> simply a hobby...and in most instances performs no useful functions
TL> whatsover, other than filling time and massaging egoes.

YEp, and one reason many who used to utilize fidonet think
that we're no longer in existence.  THings that should have
happened while we were a major player or close to it didn't
and .... you know the rest.  US diehards are still out here
doing it .

 RW> Oh no prob, it's just that some of what I do around here
 RW> with my automation looks through elist entries when backbone
 RW> updates are made.  

TL> But most of Bob's echoes are not in the Fidonet Backbone...they are
TL> family net echoes.....

true, and if I should decide to link up, they'll remain, but otherwise,
they're not something that's downlink requestable here, hence no
information about them needs to be retained.
IF one downloads the elist archive in its raw form from
here, it's unedited, otherwise, my automation nukes anything
*not* fidonet, and that's the easiest way to do it is filter on the man's
last name .
Just simplifies things here, etc.

 RW> multitude of sins for the system by filling in for missing
 RW> links and operators, both on NTS digital and phone circuits, and I
 RW> needed to cover for him that day, as well as cover for others who
 RW> volunteer to take on these responsibilities then
 RW> don't show up .
 RW> sPeaking of which, did you read that guy's editorial in the
 RW> Contest update I posted in ls_arrl yesterday?  

TL> I don't take that echo.....I have no interest in the
TL> ARRL....although I am a life member, I have had enough disagreements
TL> wtih them over the years I should simply resign my membership.....

Yah, am still a member myself, and an NTS area net manager
which means I'm considered field organization staff.  I
disagree strongly with some very closely and dearly held
positions of theirs these days, but I"ll keep fighting from
the inside .

SPeaking of which, you might appreciate some of what's going on elsewhere. 
CHeck out those emcomm monthly issues I cause to be hatched out in the
hamnews file echo.

 RW> This same frustration is also why I argue against this
 RW> automated email by radio as being the be-all and end-all in
 RW> emcomm work, but that's a subject for another echo .

TL> Yep.....

YEp, think I mentioned it when a question was asked in
amateur_radio a few months back >


73

           Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+