RL> hundreds of dollars so people pirated it.  Lotus was, of course, mad. 

I remember downloading it just because it was popular. I never learned how to
use it or anything. That's one thing they did right: they got their name out.

 RL> I share your frustration with the 2 factor stuff.  I ran into the same
 RL> problem when setting up my new phone.  But the sad thing is that most
 RL> people who use tech do not understand it.

I always feel like big tech wants my phone number, and I don't wanna give it to them (even though Google already probably has it.)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)