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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Robert Comer
date: 2003-03-06 17:30:58
subject: Re: Freedom of Speech?

From: "Robert Comer" 

> Based on the news articles they were only wearing the t shirts. Most
people
> think of Malls and Shopping centers as public places and do not think of
> dress codes.

I know, but that doesn't make it so.

>One of the wearers kept asking for an explanation of why he had
> to change and per that article was never told.

Strictly speaking, the mall management didn't need to tell him.  They
should have I agree, but it's still within legal limits.

>Also the rules were
> inconsistently enforced.

Perhaps there was something different about these 2 guys to warrant the
difference?  Besides, it's still within legal limits to enforce when you
want, and not to when you want on your own property.

>Personally I think I would go shopping and when asked to leave say
> let me return my purchases first , remove the shirts and return everything
I
> bought explaining that since I was being singled out and had been told I
> wasn't wanted as a shopper there ......

That would certainly be fair.

- Bob Comer



"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:3e67c670{at}w3.nls.net...
> Based on the news articles they were only wearing the t shirts. Most
people
> think of Malls and Shopping centers as public places and do not think of
> dress codes.One of the wearers kept asking for an explanation of why he
had
> to change and per that article was never told. Also the rules were
> inconsistently enforced. So I can understand why people are upset ( aside
> from the loony left who would be upset no matter what the circumstances
> are).  Personally I think I would go shopping and when asked to leave say
> let me return my purchases first , remove the shirts and return everything
I
> bought explaining that since I was being singled out and had been told I
> wasn't wanted as a shopper there ......
>
> Bob Lewis
>
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:3e67c171$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > I really don't understand what everyone is so up tight about this one,
the
> > mall security guys/ Macy's had a right to do what they did -- if they
> don't
> > like it, they shouldn't shop there is what I say. (with a kind letter to
> the
> > mall management just why I wouldn't shop there is perfectly acceptable
> too.)
> >
> > - Bob Comer
> >
> >
> > "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
> > news:rrgf6vcg5chhhqggru6qvk5fev4t3dotai{at}4ax.com...
> > > Exactly.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:30:43 -0500, "Robert Comer"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >>You also have the right to boycott them and
> > > >> encourage others to do likewise.
> > > >
> > > >As long as you do that encouragement on your own or
public property.
> > > >
> > > >- Bob Comer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
> > > >news:cg9f6vggmsjl3mk9ho7pfalu8bsf2rekrj{at}4ax.com...
> > > >> And they have the right to toss you off their
private property for
> > > >> violating those rules.  You also have the right to
boycott them and
> > > >> encourage others to do likewise.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:59:06 -0500, "Tony Ingenoso"
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Crossgates is also owned by Pyramid corp which
are a bunch of
> relative
> > > >Nazi's.  I was in there yesterday and noticed that all the
> > > >> >entrances have signs prominently posted stating
the mall rules and
> all
> > > >the things that can get you ejected.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"Gary Wiltshire"
 wrote in message
> > > >news:u5oc6vsbj6r8scn1imb07mavjp7dot5q6u{at}4ax.com...
> > > >> >> Not even close.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> According to the mall officials, the two
men were harassing the
> > other
> > > >> >> patrons.  I work in Clifton Park, NY and
frequently bomb down
the
> > > >> >> Northway to visit Crossgates.  At any
given time I see plenty of
> > more
> > > >> >> offensive material on kids shirts.  BTW,
the shirts in question
> were
> > > >> >> sold in the mall.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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