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date: 1998-02-13 01:45:00
subject: Re: Two Knights Defense - Fried Liver At01:45:2402/13/98

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From: Izya Yagolnitser 
Subject: Re: Two Knights Defense - Fried Liver Attack
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Wow! My copy is outdated! Thanks for that line.
That leaves us with an obvious 11. Bxd5+, after which there is no forced win
for White, but Black's position remains very dangerous. I am running Hiarcs
overnight to see what White's plan might be after 11. Bxd5, will know in the
morning.
Mark Brodie wrote:
> "Tim Kokesh"  writes:
>
> >Mark Brodie wrote:
> >>The copy of Estrin that I know has:
> >>
> >>" 11. Qe4 c6 12. Re1 (recommended by Panov, but...) 12...Kf7! "
> >>and a long line is given with advantage to Black.
> >>
> >>Mark Brodie
>
> >Could you quote the entire line?  I played around with this for a little
> >while, but after 13. Qxe5, 13. ... Ne6 doesn't look good: e.g. 14. Nxd5
> >cxd5 15. Bxd5 Qd6 16. Qf5+ Ke7 17. d3 h6 18. Bf4 Qb6 19. Rc1; White's
> >position is crushing.  Maybe 13. ... Qf6 is the way out, but 14. Qc7+
> >looked strong: 14. ... Kg8 15. Nxd5 or 14. ... Be7 15. Nxd5 cxd5 (15. ...
> >Bg4+!? 16. f3 Bxf3!) 16. Bxd5+ Kf8 isn't clear.  Even 14. Nxd5 may open up
> >a can of worms.  In any case, it isn't too clear to me.
>
> >Tim Kokesh
>
> Estrin gives:
>
> 11. Qe4 c6 12. Re1 Kf7! 13. Nxd5 (13. Qxe5 Ne6 14. Nxd5 cd 15. Bxd5 Qf6)
> 13... cd 14. Bxd5+ Be6 15. Bxe6+ Nxe6 16. Qxb7+ Be7 "and in view of the
> poor position of his king, White does not have compensation for the
> sacrificed piece".
>
> Mark Brodie
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