"Ross Cassell -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
news:9911$HOLYSMOKE{at}JamNNTPd:

 RS>>>> Face it, dummy, Dan and I are going to disparage religions,
 RC>>>   based on RS> our past experiences with religions.

 RC>>> But starting today you are going to have to disparage religion
 RC>   on RC>> and with more civil levels and language.

 RS>> So I can't call Ed a dummy anymore?

 RC> Attack his ideas as he will yours..

I can, but Ed? Fat chance.


 RC> Saying "that is stupid" is better than saying "so
and so is stupid".

 RC> Lets raise the level of debate above more than tit for tat.

 RC> There is always MATZDOBRE.

True.

 RS>> I can't describe stupidity found in some religion as stupidity?

 RC> Sure you can, just dont blame it all on your opponent and try to
 RC> excoriate him for it.

When Ed mindlessly defends stupidity, I will say he is mindlessly
defending stupidity.

Most recently, the Mormon practice of "baptizing the dead."

 RC> You and Dan spent way too much energy trying to fry Ed for being a
 RC> Mormon and trying to fry him for all that you see wrong with his
 RC> religion. On a political note, may I remind you that those Democrats
 RC> you hold dear, that you voted for or support, also cling to religious
 RC> beliefs?

So? Most of the democrats don't try to cram their religion into
everyone's lives.

I say most.

In Illinois, a democrat city council member threw a fit chewing out an
atheist, saying the US is a "Christian nation."

AFAIK, nothing more besides the councilwoman's tirade has occured.

 RC> The manager whom hired me, 10 years ago on the 25th of April, who now
 RC> manages a location across town, is also a Mormon, he is a Bishop in
 RC> the local Mormon congregation. In case you are wondering, in the
 RC> Mormon Church, a Bishop is on par with a Pastor in most other
 RC> churches. This man is one of the nicest clean cut people you could
 RC> meet or want to meet, soft spoken, respectful and meeting him, you
 RC> could not tell he was of faith. He also spent time in the USAF, as a
 RC> weapons mechanic on the F16, he once told me of the extensive training
 RC> period he had to undergo after basic.. Anyway very nice man, I would
 RC> imagine that if I ever met Ed, without knowing that it was him, I
 RC> would come to the same conclusions. I also imagine that if I met Ed in
 RC> person and knew it was him, I would still draw the same conclusions,
 RC> for the written message forum is the poorest form of communication,
 RC> nothing beats looking someone in the eye and a firm handshake.

He's one of the people I prefer, they don't wear their faith on their
sleeve, or condemn to hell everyone *THEY* don't like.

 RC> I am telling you this for the simple reason that you and Dan took out
 RC> with all fury, your mis/preconceptions of the LDS onto Ed. Now how was
 RC> he to react?

Ed fell into it on his own.
He wants now to "play the martyr," just like Jeff does with his "the
liberals are out to get me."

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