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echo: holysmoke
to: Ross Sauer
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2009-05-01 22:24:50
subject: It is the 1st.

Hello Ross!

01 May 09 22:11, you wrote to me:

 RS>>> Face it, dummy, Dan and I are going to disparage religions,
 RC>>   based on RS> our past experiences with religions.

 RC>> But starting today you are going to have to disparage religion on
 RC>> and with more civil levels and language.

 RS> So I can't call Ed a dummy anymore?

Attack his ideas as he will yours..

Saying "that is stupid" is better than saying "so and so is
stupid".

Lets raise the level of debate above more than tit for tat.

There is always MATZDOBRE.

 RS> I can't describe stupidity found in some religion as stupidity?

Sure you can, just dont blame it all on your opponent and try to excoriate
him for it.

You and Dan spent way too much energy trying to fry Ed for being a Mormon
and trying to fry him for all that you see wrong with his religion. On a
political note, may I remind you that those Democrats you hold dear, that
you voted for or support, also cling to religious beliefs?

The manager whom hired me, 10 years ago on the 25th of April, who now
manages a location across town, is also a Mormon, he is a Bishop in the
local Mormon congregation. In case you are wondering, in the Mormon Church,
a Bishop is on par with a Pastor in most other churches. This man is one of
the nicest clean cut people you could meet or want to meet, soft spoken,
respectful and meeting him, you could not tell he was of faith. He also
spent time in the USAF, as a weapons mechanic on the F16, he once told me
of the extensive training period he had to undergo after basic.. Anyway
very nice man, I would imagine that if I ever met Ed, without knowing that
it was him, I would come to the same conclusions. I also imagine that if I
met Ed in person and knew it was him, I would still draw the same
conclusions, for the written message forum is the poorest form of
communication, nothing beats looking someone in the eye and a firm
handshake.

I am telling you this for the simple reason that you and Dan took out with
all fury, your mis/preconceptions of the LDS onto Ed. Now how was he to
react?

==
Ross
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