->  -> John, are you fucking aware that math puposely has man made defined 
->  -> absolutes and rules?
->  JO> Are you aware that Euclid Geometry has undergone
changes/improvements?
->  JO> That math has undergone a revolution in the past decade?
->  JO> That is you Google "Proving a negative", has
thousands of things to
->  JO> say about it...
-> 
-> And, you are talking about a mathematical proof, John.  It does 
-> not reflect reality...
Some would argue that it reflects the only reality...:-)

  As I stated, math starts with predefined 
-> absolutes.
Woah! That a point exists. Without a shape. Imaginary numbers exist. There
are many different infinities...to talk about time you need calculus, to
talk about 10 dimensions you have to abandon geometry...0=2.

  Science itself does not.
And what do you think falsification IS?

  It is based on observation 
-> and confirmation.
And the destruction of ideas previously held.  
-> 
-> After all, if what you state above is true, one side or the other 
-> would be using it to claim the absolutr existance or non-existance 
-> of god(s).
Quite true, and as in quantum mechanics two positions CAN be held at the
same time! :-)

I guess that at this level of existence, it would amount to respecting the
opinions held by others. 

All science and all theology should be questioned (St. Paul sez so!)and
ya hand on to the parts that are good. Makes sense t' me.


There is negative energy, there is negative gravity - a whole lot of
mystery going on...a lot of speculation going on. (And at the same time a
golden age for linguistic studies, biblical-archeology, systematic and
Pauline theology, et cetera...) A magical time to be alive --except for the
world going to hell...  
-> 
-> That hasn't happened, has it. 
Everything is variably likely. Hence my church,
 
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> ... One does NOT evidence the negative of any claim.
That is a negative claim for which you have no evidence.
All positive claims contain the opposite possibility of the claim,
or there wouldn't be anything to claim!
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