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to: mike
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2007-03-05 18:35:04
subject: Re: Brute force Keygen cracks Vista - a hoax?

From: Rich Gauszka 


Uh Oh - The next candidates for deactivation - ASUS, Dell, HP and Lenovo?


mike wrote:
> Don't know.
>
> http://apcmag.com/5512/pirate_crack_vista_oem_activation
>
>
> ===
> A genuine crack for Windows Vista has just been released by pirate group
> Pantheon, which allows a pirated, non-activated installation of Vista
> (Home Basic/Premium and Ultimate) to be properly activated and made
> fully-operational.
>
> Unlike cracks which have been floating around since Vista RTM was
> released in late November, this crack doesn’t simply get around product
> activation with beta activation files or timestop cracks - it actually
> makes use of the activation process. It seems that Microsoft has allowed
> large OEMs like ASUS to ship their products with a pre-installed version
> of Vista that doesn’t require product activation – apparently because
> end users would find it too inconvenient....
> ===
>
>
>
>
>  /m
>
>
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:26:17 -0500, "Rich Gauszka"

> wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm - wonder if the wga team is really the NSA as Ballmer's notion of
>> 'safe and secure for millions' is wga  
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/08/AR2007010801
352.html
>>
>> When Microsoft introduces its long-awaited Windows Vista operating system
>> this month, it will have an unlikely partner to thank for making its
>> flagship product safe and secure for millions of computer users across the
>> world: the National Security Agency.
>>
>>
>> "mike"  wrote in message
>> news:uvjlu21glndoeq36kg0bulehi3dtbb4c5t{at}4ax.com...
>>>
>>> ... or did he have to say that because he found the NSA back door into
>>> Windows?
>>>
>>>  /m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:59:35 -0500, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/10119/1103/
>>>>
>>>> The man who cracked Vista, known as 'Computer User' at the
KezNews.Com
>>>> Forum, has admitted in a posting entitled "Brute
force keygen a phoney"
>>>> that
>>>> the keygen doesn't actually work, even as Microsoft are
reported to be
>>>> investigating the crack to see if it works or not.
>>>> 'Computer User' said that "fact is the brute force
keygen is a joke, i
>>>> never
>>>> intended for it to work. I have never gotten it to work,
everyone should
>>>> stop using it! everyone who said they got a key is probably lying or
>>>> mistaken! i suggest everyone uses the 120 day 3x rearm method."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:45e8c6be$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> will the WGA team ever sleep now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Using Vista to crack Vista
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=296
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of tech sites seem to have totally misunderstood
how this works.
>>>>> Many seems to think that this crack somehow relies on hammering
>>>>> Microsoft's activation servers 20,000 times an hours.  This is
>>>>> inaccurate.
>>>>> This crack uses Vista itself to check that the key is
in an acceptable
>>>>> format.  Only after a key that's accepted by Vista
does the user have to
>>>>> attempt activation.  Limiting how many times an IP
address can access
>>>>> the
>>>>> activations servers would have no effect on this.  The
real weakness
>>>>> here
>>>>> is that Microsoft has relied on a script to control
licensing and as a
>>>>> result it makes this kind of attack easier because the
script can be
>>>>> easier modified and tampered with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over on KezNews.com a brute force method for acquiring
a usable product
>>>>> key for Microsoft's Vista platform has been released.
>>>>>
>>>>> he brute force keygen relies on replacing the software
license manager
>>>>> script slmgr.vbs with one that's been modified to
search for valid
>>>>> 25-character product keys. Periodically you have to
check manually to
>>>>> see
>>>>> if they key has changed and then manually use that key
to attempt to
>>>>> activate Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that the scheme works.  I've had the
script running on
>>>>> Windows Vista Ultimate inside Virtual PC 2007 and
already netted two
>>>>> product keys.  Now I've not used these keys to try to
activate Windows,
>>>>> but others have reported successfully activating their
copies of Windows
>>>>> Vista using keys found in this way.  There are,
however, some drawbacks
>>>>> to
>>>>> the keygen that will probably prevent it from becoming
widespread.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, the process can take a long time and consumes a
lot of system
>>>>> resources while running.  Anyone expecting to net a
key needs to spend
>>>>> hours or maybe even days running this script.  This is
not a  "click the
>>>>> button and a key is generated instantly" kind of
key generator.
>>>>>
>>>>> You also need some smarts to use it.  A lot of people
start running the
>>>>> script and then use the Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder
(included with the
>>>>> download package - those hackers think of everything!)
to check the key
>>>>> but a lot of people seem to be trying to activate
using the default
>>>>> trial
>>>>> keys.  You have to be able to tell the difference
between a valid key
>>>>> and
>>>>> the default key that is assigned during installation
if you choose not
>>>>> to
>>>>> enter a key.

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