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to: Ross Sauer
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2008-04-20 20:56:26
subject: Elitism?

Hello Ross!

20 Apr 08 18:19, you wrote to me:

 >> You see, I didnt say a single thing negative to you or about you and
 >> your firs instinct is to up the volume, what are you retaliating here
 >> for, just curious?

 RS> That's not retaliation, dummy.
 RS> It's a simple statement that you're putting out the bullshit, as
 RS> always.

So what is it, megalomania, only your viewpoints are correct?

Klahn and Wilson sit in bewilderment as to why you get treated the way you
do and its in plain site.

If anything, it is you who resorts to name calling, more often unprovoked,
and I most certainly didnt provoke you.

As the saying goes, you reap what you sow.

 >>>> An elitist in this context is one whom looks down on the
 >>>> electorate and stereotypes them based on their traits..

 >>> You mean like how conservative Hugh Hewitt described Harvard
 >>> graduates as "elitist," even though he *HIMSELF* is a Harvard
 >>> graduate?

 >> Diversion, strawman??

 RS> Quit diverting, yourself.
 RS> Hewitt is an "elitist," the same way McCain is.

Irrelevant, wasnt talking about either.

 >>>> Keep in mind that some of whom Obama referred to where those whom
 >>>> would have voted for either him or Hillary.

 >>> Such as...?

 >> I have all of their names in a PDF file, let me dig it up, just got
 >> back from PA conducting the poll.

 RS> Post the names, and the source.

Statistically speaking, he painted alot of people with a broad brush,
however you appear to be saying he only meant those whom would have
tendencies to not vote Democrat, left or whatever? Is this correct?

Do you not feel that people whom own guns, have lost jobs and are religious
are not capable of being or voting for Democrats?

 >>>> After the 2004 Election, some liberals tried to rationalize the
 >>>> outcome by analyzing the red states and saying that only dumb
 >>>> uneducated bible thumping trailer trash voted against Kerry.

 >>> The 2004 elections were mostly decided by the knuckledrag
 >>> contingents who believed the Slime Boat Liars For Bush, and Rove's
 >>> campaign descriptions of Kerry as "soft on terror."

 >> When the liberals were digging up their statistics, they failed to
 >> mention tha Kerry got the bulk of High School dropouts..

 RS> Again, bullshit.

I think the whole exercise was bullshit, but it was what they uncovered,
but failed to mention.

Two Demographics they said overwhelmingly swung to Kerry were people whom
either were High School dropouts and those with Phd's. Other Demographics
were not as clear cut, except for certain minorities.

You would be proud of my youngest brother, he is a flaming liberal and he
and I went round and round on this subject back in 05 after the
innauguration. Sorry, I dont save 3 year old email, in this case I wish I
had.

 >> Kerry didnt lose the election based on the swift boat affair.

 RS> I didn't say ENTIRELY, dummy.
 RS> I said it was *MOSTLY* due to the knuckldraggers who believed the lies
 RS> from the Slime Boaters, and those who believed Karl Rove's lies about
 RS> Kerry would be "soft on terror."

It didnt have to be Kerry, it would have been any Democrat.

Kerry was no more suited to unseat a incumbent President than Dole was(in 1996).

Its that simple.

Why cant you chalk all of this up to political mudlinging that is par for
the course in American Politics?

 >>> Yet the right-wing continues to falsely describe Obama as
 >>> "elitist," based on nothing.

 >> Obama is not as poor and deprived as he paints himself to be.

 RS> Show me where Obama said he was "poor and deprived."

Referencing his childhood.

He is trying to reach out to a constituency that can identify with him by race only.


 >>> Why?
 >>> Like I said, they are scared shitless of him.

 >> Good grief, this mudslinging takes place all of the time, and
 >> frankly most of the negative shit that has been said about bam bam
 >> has come from either his

 RS> NOW who's the "elitist" here, with you repeating Stan's asinine
 RS> "[O]bambam" juvenile insult?

Spare me your dramatics, after the years of insults I have seen you hurl at
public and private figures.

==
Ross
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